2018 Preparation Deprecations

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 pm

SlowLane wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:37 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
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There are *effects* that can change range in a heartbeat, headwinds, elevation, that last CHT-inspired richening adjustment . . . . you know?
Them are *causes*, pardner, not *effects*. :flower:
You also omitted one: chronic leadfoot. :geek:

YAY! A Grammar Showdown in Word Nerd's Corral! Yes, *causes* AFFECT fuel economy, but I am discussing *range* upon which various effects work.
I tink . . . :geek:
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 pm

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Mon May 21, 2018 3:34 pm
I've seen as low as 15mpg in my early bus, and as high as 25mpg on a particularly slow decent of the Rockies.
Robbie
You are about to get air-schooled, but business peer-to-peer courtesy compels me to give you one more chance . . .
Colin :cyclopsani:
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Curtp07 » Tue May 22, 2018 6:03 am

A lot of hubbub here but all that matters is empty is calibrated...everything else can be a trend. ;)

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by SlowLane » Tue May 22, 2018 7:24 am

Amskeptic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 pm
SlowLane wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:37 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 6:19 pm
There are *effects* that can change range in a heartbeat, headwinds, elevation, that last CHT-inspired richening adjustment . . . . you know?
Them are *causes*, pardner, not *effects*. :flower:
You also omitted one: chronic leadfoot. :geek:

YAY! A Grammar Showdown in Word Nerd's Corral! Yes, *causes* AFFECT fuel economy, but I am discussing *range* upon which various effects work.
I tink . . . :geek:
Where's the English prof when you need him?
Lanval...?
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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Tue May 22, 2018 8:23 pm

SlowLane wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 7:24 am
Amskeptic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:18 pm
SlowLane wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:37 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 6:19 pm
There are *effects* that can change range in a heartbeat, headwinds, elevation, that last CHT-inspired richening adjustment . . . . you know?
Them are *causes*, pardner, not *effects*. :flower:
You also omitted one: chronic leadfoot. :geek:

YAY! A Grammar Showdown in Word Nerd's Corral! Yes, *causes* AFFECT fuel economy, but I am discussing *range* upon which various effects work.
I tink . . . :geek:
Where's the English prof when you need him?
Lanval...?
Where is Lanval? I shall PM/email him . . . forthwith.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Tue May 22, 2018 8:30 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 pm
asiab3 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:34 pm
I've seen as low as 15mpg in my early bus, and as high as 25mpg on a particularly slow decent of the Rockies.
Robbie
You are about to get air-schooled, but business peer-to-peer courtesy compels me to give you one more chance . . .
Colin :cyclopsani:

Too late . . . d-e-s-c-e-n-t

Colin :bom:
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by asiab3 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:37 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 8:30 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 pm
asiab3 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:34 pm
I've seen as low as 15mpg in my early bus, and as high as 25mpg on a particularly slow descent of the Rockies.
Robbie
You are about to get air-schooled, but business peer-to-peer courtesy compels me to give you one more chance . . .
Colin :cyclopsani:

Too late . . . d-e-s-c-e-n-t

Colin :bom:
Oh my. How embarrassing… I went back and read it a few times and didn't catch it, so I have no excuse. And to think, several states have given me license to teach children…

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Wed May 23, 2018 7:43 am

asiab3 wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 10:37 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 8:30 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 8:21 pm
asiab3 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 3:34 pm
I've seen as low as 15mpg in my early bus, and as high as 25mpg on a particularly slow decent of the Rockies.
Robbie
You are about to get air-schooled, but business peer-to-peer courtesy compels me to give you one more chance . . .
Colin :cyclopsani:

Too late . . . d-e-s-c-e-n-t

Colin :bom:
Oh my. How embarrassing… I went back and read it a few times and didn't catch it, so I have no excuse. And to think, several states have given me license to teach children…

Robbie
That's all right. This morning, as I was reading through the links you gave me of the Timex Engine Overhaul, I ran across "loose" in the place of "lose" (cylinder head torque through heat cycles).
... but I don't have a license to teach children.
Colin :pirate:
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by andrewtf » Thu May 24, 2018 1:57 pm

Well... pooh to the both of you.

I can't spell worth a damn - demonstrated by the fact that the only class I ever flunked was 8th grade spelling.

But I must take exception........
While the both of you may not have a license to teach children - you have both imparted upon my child a wealth of knowledge and a lifetime of inspiration and VW bravado. Just look at Emma covered from head to toe in cv grease and tell me you have not taught her anything (except maybe how to keep clean while redoing cv joints).

And now - back to spell check since I cannot afford a secretary.
ATF

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by whc03grady » Thu May 24, 2018 2:34 pm

'Effect' is a noun, 'affect' is a verb. Is it a thing? It's an effect. Is it happening? Affect. Causes affect effects.
Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Thu May 24, 2018 6:23 pm

whc03grady wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 2:34 pm
'Effect' is a noun, 'affect' is a verb. Is it a thing? It's an effect. Is it happening? Affect. Causes affect effects.

I agree with the above in a general sense, with the following clarification.
When effect is used as a verb, it means to bring something about.
I effect change through strenuous lobbying. Whether my lobbying has any effect remains to be seen, but I have affected the process nonetheless.
So "effect" is an imperative active verb, and "affect" is sort of a reactive passive verb.
Now then, my pedantic affectations must be trying.
Colin :flower:
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Happyfolk » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:17 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
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For fun, I swapped the red Koni shock absorbers from the BobD to NaranjaWesty, you know, the "heavier camper" deal. Noticed that the Konis do NOT have the full travel of the stock Boges:

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Now NaranjaWesty has the Koni firmness and the BobD has the Boge velvety ride. I will do a write-up (sure, when I have the time) on shock absorbers. They really are circumscribed to a narrow range of effectiveness, and the Konis adjustability must be considered carefully.
Colin, do you adjust the Koni fronts fully soft and the rears a half-turn tighter like Ratwell suggested? Just found a full new set for $369 shipped.
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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:53 pm

Happyfolk wrote:
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Colin, do you adjust the Koni fronts fully soft and the rears a half-turn tighter like Ratwell suggested? Just found a full new set for $369 shipped.
NaranjaWesty has 1/2 front 1/1 rear.

BobD had full soft front 1/2 rear.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by SlowLane » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:08 am

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NaranjaWesty has 1/2 front 1/1 rear.

BobD had full soft front 1/2 rear.
Geez, how do remember stuff like that? I've only got the one Koni-equipped vehicle and I can't now remember how I set 'em.

Also, regarding the full extension of the shocks: does it really matter? As long as the suspension stop is hit before the shock hits its full extension you should be fine. Any shortcoming in shock extension would become glaringly obvious when you try to install them with the wheels off the ground (to be subsequently tightened up with wheels on the ground, of course).
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Re: 2018 Preparation Deprecations

Post by Amskeptic » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:00 pm

SlowLane wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:08 am
Amskeptic wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:53 pm
NaranjaWesty has 1/2 front 1/1 rear.

BobD had full soft front 1/2 rear.
Geez, how do remember stuff like that? I've only got the one Koni-equipped vehicle and I can't now remember how I set 'em.

Also, regarding the full extension of the shocks: does it really matter? As long as the suspension stop is hit before the shock hits its full extension you should be fine. Any shortcoming in shock extension would become glaringly obvious when you try to install them with the wheels off the ground (to be subsequently tightened up with wheels on the ground, of course).
I have run into several VWs with too-short extensions. They can rest on the snubbers and bolt up, but when the snubbers are compressed in a dynamic way (pot holes) the shock takes a brutal impact on the hydraulic cylinder caps hidden under the outer tubes. Then they leak.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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