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Post by turk » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:47 pm

Cool shot of the moonrise Westy78. I've tried a number of times to get a clear shot of the moon, and came close once at the last eclipse, but the shot itself is unremarkable. It's always startling to see the moonrise. Last weekend we saw it rise above Lake Michigan on Friday night (late) and it was weird. At first it just seemed like a big red light coming from the east. Then we realized what it was -- didn't know last weekend was a full moon. It hurt our fishing but not too bad. I have more salmon than I can eat.

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Post by IFBwax » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:23 am

Where have I been? I just learned about HDR yesterday. When I say learned I mean heard the concept. I downloaded photomatrix and will play with it for a while before actually spending the money. They let you try it as long as you want, but it puts a watermark on the picture.

There are some stunning shots on that webpage's user gallery.

http://www.hdrsoft.com/gallery/index.php


One of my favorites is the Student Room on this page:


http://www.hdrsoft.com/gallery/gallery.php?id=24&gid=0

the guy who does the trains looks almost cartoonish.. but I could see one or two shots would look cool.

Amazing technology. Is there any debate about this among the new generation of photographers and pureists?
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Post by Westy78 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:41 pm

You can do some very cool stuff with HDR. Here's another good tutorial site.

http://www.vanilladays.com/hdr-guide/
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Post by hambone » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:24 pm

Those pics of those neon antique cars are simply amazing. Don't know how I missed that stuff last time.
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Post by Amskeptic » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:20 pm

hambone wrote:Those pics of those neon antique cars are simply amazing. Don't know how I missed that stuff last time.
It is blurring the line between art and "art" when photography begins to mimic drawing/painting/etching. . . it's art, those cars were pretty and well-composed, but. . . . hmmmmmmmmm. I dunno.
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Post by glasseye » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:29 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
hambone wrote:Those pics of those neon antique cars are simply amazing. Don't know how I missed that stuff last time.
It is blurring the line between art and "art" when photography begins to mimic drawing/painting/etching. . . it's art, those cars were pretty and well-composed, but. . . . hmmmmmmmmm. I dunno.
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They look a little weird because we're not used to seeing shadow detail like that in photographs, just in real life. :colors:
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Post by satchmo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:46 am

Hey, glasseye, you should post a picture of the neon car in front of the building with the standard exposure settings. If I recall correctly, you would hardly see the rusty vehicle in the shadow to the left, nor would you see any detail on the building. A single picture with 'correct' exposure settings just can't get any shadow detail on a sunny day. HDR helps with that.

You can always go too far, however, and the image becomes unnatural. Our eyes know that in completely flat and shadowless light, we lose detail and depth perception. Lots of detail and no shadows makes a picture look like a cartoon or a strange painting.

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Post by glasseye » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:04 am

This one is HDR, too. Three images. The trucks weren't rattle-canned with day-glo, tho.

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I need a title for this image.

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Post by hambone » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:03 am

Is extensive post-image processing cheating? I'm not sure how I feel about it. Those merged bracketed photos often seem cartoonish.
Before it was all darkroom dodge/burn. Now with PCs, what is reality any more?
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Post by dtrumbo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:25 am

If I may offer this thought.

Art is something you create by using any and all resources you have at your means. Enhancing a photograph, in my mind, would fall into this category.

Science is capturing, or otherwise observing something exactly as it occurs in nature. Setting the parameters on the camera to capture the image as accurately as possible, without human "enhancements" is an example of this.

I enjoy both.
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Post by hambone » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:33 am

But isn't there art in science, in seeing something/capturing a miracle just as you see it?
Like the beauty of an old school technical pen assembly diagram. Or seeing a mist-rise exactly as you see it.
I guess I'm kind of literal. Fanciful will not do.
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Post by dtrumbo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:44 am

hambone wrote:But isn't there art in science, in seeing something/capturing a miracle just as you see it?
Like the beauty of an old school technical pen assembly diagram. Or seeing a mist-rise exactly as you see it.
I guess I'm kind of literal. Fanciful will not do.
I completely agree. That's why it's always best that you go out and capture "art" (ie nature) exactly as you perceive it, not how it's been enhanced by some other human.
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Post by hambone » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:54 am

It's really hard to share! What thrills me makes someone else yawn. Kind of a personal thing.
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Post by dtrumbo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:15 am

hambone wrote:It's really hard to share! What thrills me makes someone else yawn. Kind of a personal thing.
Isn't that the definition of art?
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Post by hambone » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:34 am

Well, maybe in a pure sense. In this culture however, it seems to be what is marketable.
I can't watch American Idull. They reject the people with true talent and inspiration because they're not blonde and camera pretty. "How can you make me $$$??"
I've always thought a real artist does what they do and then put the work in the attic. Sure it's fun to share and get feedback but it shouldn't be an ego thing. Especially because you can't take credit for what the muse did.
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