Occasional stumble, every few months or so

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Re: Occasional stumble, every few months or so

Post by Amskeptic » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:03 pm

JLT wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 am
Amskeptic wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 5:08 am
Update?
Did we talk about fuel pump guides freezing the pushrod when the engine gets hot?
Colin
We did not. But I'll take that into account if/when the problem recurs.

It is a "thing." With engine oil, push rod should slip through a removed fuel pump spacer. Do a cross-hatch on the push rod to help hold oil. Good VW bakelite/phenolic seems to do a better job of not expanding and grabbing the pushrod enough to limit the re-stroke of the pump diaphragm. The ony indicator here is that it is a "soft" fuel failure type of lurch, not an ignition "pow-dead-oh-we're-back" sort of jolt.
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Chloe - 70 bus . . . . . . . . 219,045 miles
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Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . 55,630 miles
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Re: Occasional stumble, every few months or so

Post by JLT » Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:40 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:03 pm

It is a "thing." With engine oil, push rod should slip through a removed fuel pump spacer. Do a cross-hatch on the push rod to help hold oil.
Not sure what you mean by "do a cross-hatch." Does this mean cutting grooves with a file, or using sandpaper to score the surface?

I'll be going to Buses By the Bridge, and the 600 mile road test will give me a good test of the new/old distributor-carburetor match-up. If the problem recurs, I'll do the push-rod thing and see if that helps.

Thanks for still paying attention to this.
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(sometimes towing a '65 Allstate single-wheel trailer)
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Re: Occasional stumble, every few months or so

Post by Amskeptic » Sat Jan 11, 2025 8:58 am

JLT wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:40 pm
Amskeptic wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 12:03 pm

It is a "thing." With engine oil, push rod should slip through a removed fuel pump spacer. Do a cross-hatch on the push rod to help hold oil.
Not sure what you mean by "do a cross-hatch." Does this mean cutting grooves with a file, or using sandpaper to score the surface?

I'll be going to Buses By the Bridge, and the 600 mile road test will give me a good test of the new/old distributor-carburetor match-up. If the problem recurs, I'll do the push-rod thing and see if that helps.

Thanks for still paying attention to this.

Cross-hatch as in the 220 grit sandpaper with directional sanding. Do it before you are on the road. It is a half-hour job, stick on some fresh gaskets, check pushrod protrusion and stroke as per Bentley. Is your pump German Pierburg or Brazilian? A long journey can expand the Brazilian pumps without circlips holding the pivot pin. They sometimes like to drill themselves out of the pump body and leave you stranded ... like my customer in Jacksonville Fl on his wedding day.
BobD - 78 Bus . . . . . . . . .115,063 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . . . . . . 219,045 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . . . 185,060 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . 55,630 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . 99,705 miles

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