Removing Baywindow Windshield without Breakage?
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Removing Baywindow Windshield without Breakage?
Is this possible to do with a reasonable probability of success (without cutting the seal)? I've heard rumors that it can be done, but can't find any specific instructions...
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Re: Removing Baywindow Windshield without Breakage?
Yes. Gently peel the seal free of the interior lip along the top and sides with your fingers and squirt vinyl conditioner in the gap you create. Then, with a good deep understanding and sensitive physical presence, start pushing the windshield out from the top keeping the radius of the glass intact. That means, if you push out a half inch at the corner, it must a push of a 1/4 inch along the glass towards the center. Try to keep the curves intact. Apply force to as much surface area as you can . . . keeping the radius of the glass intact. If there are pits or chips, all bets are off.bretski wrote:Is this possible to do with a reasonable probability of success (without cutting the seal)? I've heard rumors that it can be done, but can't find any specific instructions...
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Thank you, CK...I'll give it a whirl. Though, I guess all bets are off, since I have a rock chip in the upper-center.
As a back-up, I got a quote from a local glass installer. $194 + tax installed for a PPG tinted replacement ($198 for non-tinted).
I'll report back when I attempt the removal (next weekend)...
As a back-up, I got a quote from a local glass installer. $194 + tax installed for a PPG tinted replacement ($198 for non-tinted).
I'll report back when I attempt the removal (next weekend)...
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Cut the seal. It's far cheaper to replace than the glass is.
My '79 Westy Rebuild Thread:
http://itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?t=6073
http://itinerant-air-cooled.com/viewtopic.php?t=6073
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You're both probably right, but I showed the rock chip to the glass repair folks this afternoon, and they said that the glass needs to be replaced. There are 2 cracks radiating from the rock impact, and they said they will cause the glass to crack further if a repair is attempted. So, this will be good practice, either way.
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I've had to replace the glass on every bus I've acquired. Get a good seal. I've also notice that the curve isn't' quite right on the new glass, even on the ppg glass I've gotten, had to seal that sucker with roofing cement!bretski wrote:You're both probably right, but I showed the rock chip to the glass repair folks this afternoon, and they said that the glass needs to be replaced. There are 2 cracks radiating from the rock impact, and they said they will cause the glass to crack further if a repair is attempted. So, this will be good practice, either way.
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Yuck. I hate to have to replace my windshield, but it looks like I have no choice. The folks at the glass shop said they could get another brand besides PPG (maybe Safelite?). I don't care as long as it fits properly, but I've read about many problems like yours, Chitwn...
I'm using this "opportunity" to do needed repairs on the lips, as well. Both the front and rear need repair. The rear is worse, as it has been leaking over the winter.
I'm using this "opportunity" to do needed repairs on the lips, as well. Both the front and rear need repair. The rear is worse, as it has been leaking over the winter.
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I have to replace mine too, it needs repair underneath also, which is delaying my replacement. I was going to try and reuse my exisitng seal, but I do need one as a backup.
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I just replaced mine in Feb with a old stock PPG and new seal, no leaks in the pouring Seattle rain. Its a bitch to get the seal and glass in right, took two of us moving the seal, pushing lightly on the glass etc.
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70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
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Looks like this is my best bet (old stock). I've been doing a lot of looking and asking questions about this topic.Bleyseng wrote:I just replaced mine in Feb with a old stock PPG and new seal, no leaks in the pouring Seattle rain.
PPG outsources their glass production to PGW (Pittsburgh Glass Works). Although PGW's website indicates US factories, apparently they in turn outsource to China. *blah*
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Bretski, did you ever replace this glass? I am wanting to do mine but have to have a fix lined up for my windshield lip when mu old one is out.bretski wrote:Looks like this is my best bet (old stock). I've been doing a lot of looking and asking questions about this topic.Bleyseng wrote:I just replaced mine in Feb with a old stock PPG and new seal, no leaks in the pouring Seattle rain.
PPG outsources their glass production to PGW (Pittsburgh Glass Works). Although PGW's website indicates US factories, apparently they in turn outsource to China. *blah*
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Removing the windshield: Just cut the seal on the inside (a sharpened putty knife worked great). Gentle push out and you are done. I did mine solo.
New windshield: mine was ?? brand made in China. Had the pros install it, it took them about an hour nudging and sliding the glass. They had some really cool specialty suction cups. No leaks whatsoever.
Lip: mine was pretty bad. I used POR15 and fiberglass cloth to reconstruct. If worked, seals well, and did not require welding. (I do not know how to weld.)
New windshield: mine was ?? brand made in China. Had the pros install it, it took them about an hour nudging and sliding the glass. They had some really cool specialty suction cups. No leaks whatsoever.
Lip: mine was pretty bad. I used POR15 and fiberglass cloth to reconstruct. If worked, seals well, and did not require welding. (I do not know how to weld.)
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I had read the fiberglass is a water sponge ans makes a bad patch anywhere it touches metal. Otherwise I would have done that months ago. I am all for the pro's putting it it, if I broke a new windshield I would go postal in my town.Highlander wrote:Removing the windshield: Just cut the seal on the inside (a sharpened putty knife worked great). Gentle push out and you are done. I did mine solo.
New windshield: mine was ?? brand made in China. Had the pros install it, it took them about an hour nudging and sliding the glass. They had some really cool specialty suction cups. No leaks whatsoever.
Lip: mine was pretty bad. I used POR15 and fiberglass cloth to reconstruct. If worked, seals well, and did not require welding. (I do not know how to weld.)
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue, I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace. Where never lark, or even eagle flew. And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod, The high untrespassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.