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Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:54 am
by TrollFromDownBelow
I've got Colin coming out for half a day this year and am using that as motivation opportunity to replace the heads. I've got one with a broken exhaust boss (ergo not fixable) and the other has a time cert with a death grip on a plug with probably 50,000.

Discussed with the wife and gave her the three price point options, rebuilt heads from BD, which would be a crap shoot, new heads from BD, better and would have a good base, or a set of heads from Len, rationale is that they are only a couple hundred dollars more than BD heads (I think?).

Leaning towards options two or three, as we don't ever plan on selling the bus and and to pass it down to my daughter at some point. At this point, do not want to do a full engine rebuild, because this one runs so well....wouldn't even think of putting new heads on it if it had quiet exhaust.

So my question is, what are other's thoughts? Get new heads, and have them redone properly when I do rebuild? Spend the money now and get the heads from Len? Is my understanding that Len's heads are only $300ish more than new heads? do they come with the valves, springs, etc?

Cheers,
Mike

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:23 am
by Jivermo
I stopped by, and visited Len in his shop, in Watkinsville, GA., last year. He took the time to show me how he worked the VW heads that he creates. I wasn’t there to buy a set; I was simply interested in his work. Len’s shop is clean, air conditioned, and well laid out. His work is meticulous, and I’ve seldom met a guy with as much passion about what he does. If, and when, I need a pair of heads, there will be no other choice for me. Spend the money; it will be worth it. His heads are works of art.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tf2qI0Hn2yLKzIH32

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CriCi49cSHA3diQh1

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:38 am
by zabo
heads.jpg
im helping a guy put together an engine right now at work. He bought some heads from len.
really nice looking.
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Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:11 am
by asiab3
Ah the life of an… illustrator? :)

I've seen a few sets of Len's heads, and they feel like works of art. I WISH us Type 1 guys had an option for that level of aftermarket quality.

Yes, they come "complete" with everything from valves to rocker and exhaust studs. You will need your old rockers (clean 'em up too!) and new spark plugs, but the rest of the hardware is there.

It's also a great time, since you'll be replacing pushrod tube seals anyway, to pull your lifters and inspect them and the camshaft to give you an idea of what the engine's future holds. Make sure the lifters go back in the same bore they came from, and make sure you get the good Viton pushrod tube seals; I hear that there are some crappy ones on the market though I don't know the differences.

Good luck, and enjoy your soon-quiet bus!
Robbie

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:40 pm
by wcfvw69
Jivermo wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:23 am
I stopped by, and visited Len in his shop, in Watkinsville, GA., last year. He took the time to show me how he worked the VW heads that he creates. I wasn’t there to buy a set; I was simply interested in his work. Len’s shop is clean, air conditioned, and well laid out. His work is meticulous, and I’ve seldom met a guy with as much passion about what he does. If, and when, I need a pair of heads, there will be no other choice for me. Spend the money; it will be worth it. His heads are works of art.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tf2qI0Hn2yLKzIH32

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CriCi49cSHA3diQh1

X2

Everytime I tried to save a buck and not buy the best available part for a VW, I got burned. I learned to cry once and then enjoy the quality, fit, finish and durability of good parts.

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:43 pm
by busboytom
I can attest the product from Len is outstanding. He took the time to chat with me several times prior to my purchase. I elected to upgrade to the ceramic and Teflon coating too.
Prior to installation, my assistant insist I fondle and caress these new heads as they are that beautiful. They're real and they're spectacular... Robbie even had a chance to drive my bus when it was still in break-in mode after a fresh install of new HAM heads....I kept telling him to slow down but that motor seemed to want more and just purred down the Mississippi River road.... was a great to have the bus back again. I even required Robbie to pull a detour to visit a remote wildlife area likely named after the wild man himself....

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:17 pm
by TrollFromDownBelow
Will be going with Len. :bounce: I'm getting the coating on the combustion chambers, but forgoing on the externals.

I'm getting a little giddy ... a bus with no exhaust leaks AND I will be able to hook up the heat :cheers:

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:52 am
by Jivermo
Excellent choice. Eagerly following your progress.

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 8:03 am
by vistacruzer
What is the name of the shop?

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 11:53 am
by zabo
vistacruzer wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 8:03 am
What is the name of the shop?
Hoffman Automotive Machine
https://newsite.hamheads.com

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Thu May 03, 2018 4:59 pm
by TrollFromDownBelow
Sent Len a deposit earlier this week. Should be ready to ship in a month. Started my 'wish list' on bus depot for misc sundries such as gasket kit, tube seals, etc.

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 6:54 am
by Amskeptic
TrollFromDownBelow wrote:
Thu May 03, 2018 4:59 pm
Sent Len a deposit earlier this week. Should be ready to ship in a month. Started my 'wish list' on bus depot for misc sundries such as gasket kit, tube seals, etc.
So will we get to do the break-in when I visit, or are you going to be too excited and get it all done before I am anywhere near?

a) get written combustion chamber volumes from Len.
b) write down each of your deck height numbers (coated combustion chamber ceilings means that you can't do little adjustments with a razor blade, you will have to adjust solely with base shims).
Colin

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 7:21 pm
by TrollFromDownBelow
Amskeptic wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 6:54 am

So will we get to do the break-in when I visit, or are you going to be too excited and get it all done before I am anywhere near?

Colin
umm...with a half day scheduled, the plan was to get the heads installed correctly, and spend the rest of the time cogitating capaciously on the vicissitudes of life....

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:21 pm
by drober23
Gonna have to change your tag line if she's no longer leaky!

Re: Heads for type IV

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:04 pm
by TrollFromDownBelow
drober23 wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 2:21 pm
Gonna have to change your tag line if she's no longer leaky!
She may still be a little leaky / weepy....but she better be quiet! :geek: