Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
- whc03grady
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Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
I think I've seen this one in person actually. Would you park it on the street if you owned it?
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=626+E+Gu ... XwuUxHCDiA
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=626+E+Gu ... XwuUxHCDiA
Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
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Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
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- tristessa
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
I don't know that I'd park it on the *street* like that -- other than parking & going in someplace -- but I'd sure drive the hell out of a Schwimmer if I had one.
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- whc03grady
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If I had a Schwimmwagen, I'd gain so much weight because I wouldn't ever walk (or swim) again.
Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
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http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
- Bleyseng
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Haha, and you would get there slowly with their little 1000cc 25hp engine! I looked it to buying one at one time but they were about 20K then and now what 60K! Oh well, it's one of those if I win PowerBall purchases........and I would drive it to Maupin and give river rides.
Geoff
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77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
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- yondermtn
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
I'd rather park it in a boat slip.
Green bay window at the shop across the street and a dude with a watchful eye on the Schwimm
Green bay window at the shop across the street and a dude with a watchful eye on the Schwimm
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- JLT
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
All downstream. I doubt if a Schwimmer would have the snorts to beat the current of the river.Bleyseng wrote:.and I would drive it to Maupin and give river rides.
It would be fun shooting the rapids, though.
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ok, I'd turbo it so it had 50hp and maybe it could go upstream on a good day.
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- whc03grady
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I was under the impression that while the Allies looked at the Kubelwagen quite unfavorably--justifiably--compared to the Jeep, on the other hand the Schwimmwagen was thought an excellent vehicle and there was something of a demand for captured examples. They were quite capable in the water.
The idea was to win a war, not a race. Gimme a 25 hp, 45mph top-speed Schwimmwagen any day.
The idea was to win a war, not a race. Gimme a 25 hp, 45mph top-speed Schwimmwagen any day.
Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
- Bleyseng
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Years ago I read Col. Von Luck book of his days in the German army during WW2. He was the last one across a river escaping the Allies in a Schwimmwagen his Sgt had grabbed for them from other fleeing Germans. He was scared to death crossing a river at night in a bathtub of a car but it made it.
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- JLT
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
Well, the Jeep certainly had more horsepower, but the Kubelwagen proved to be the more useful vehicle in off-road conditions, due to its better weight distribution and the fact that if it got stuck, a bunch of soldiers could simply lift it out of the mud or sand or whatever. The story was that in North Africa, two Jeeps were worth one Kubelwagen on the black market.whc03grady wrote:I was under the impression that while the Allies looked at the Kubelwagen quite unfavorably--justifiably--compared to the Jeep, on the other hand the Schwimmwagen was thought an excellent vehicle and there was something of a demand for captured examples. They were quite capable in the water.
As for seaworthiness, the Schwimmkubel was quite satisfactory. Its meager horsepower wasn't much of an issue when navigating lakes, canals and slow-moving rivers, which it was designed for. The Deschutes River, on the other hand, would not be considered a "slow-moving river" --- just ask Mark!
-- JLT
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Present bus: '71 Dormobile Westie "George"
(sometimes towing a '65 Allstate single-wheel trailer)
Former buses: '61 17-window Deluxe "Pink Bus"
'70 Frankenwestie "Blunder Bus"
'71 Frankenwestie "Thunder Bus"
Sacramento CA
Present bus: '71 Dormobile Westie "George"
(sometimes towing a '65 Allstate single-wheel trailer)
Former buses: '61 17-window Deluxe "Pink Bus"
'70 Frankenwestie "Blunder Bus"
'71 Frankenwestie "Thunder Bus"
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
Hence the turbo!
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- Amskeptic
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
Thank-you. My hackles were hackling.JLT wrote:
Well, the Jeep certainly had more horsepower, but the Kubelwagen proved to be the more useful vehicle in off-road conditions, due to its better weight distribution and the fact that if it got stuck, a bunch of soldiers could simply lift it out of the mud or sand or whatever.
The story was that in North Africa, two Jeeps were worth one Kubelwagen on the black market.
Colin
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- whc03grady
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Huhn, it was a long time ago I'd read (or thought I'd read) that GIs rated these little cars Schwimmwagen > Jeep > Kubelwagen. Cursory research shows the Kubel was considered at least as good as the Jeep, except if you had to tow something, so I retract my earlier comments (especially in light of the potential for raising hackles).
http://www.fourwheeler.com/project-vehi ... ubelwagen/
The bit I remember about Kubels being lesser likely has the same source as the end of the second paragraph here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... erformance
http://www.fourwheeler.com/project-vehi ... ubelwagen/
The bit I remember about Kubels being lesser likely has the same source as the end of the second paragraph here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen ... erformance
Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com
- Bleyseng
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I have driven a couple of stock early Jeep's, a 46 and a 50. Pretty good little vehicle as they can crash through the woods or climb/descend steep slopes. Pretty bouncy ride.
I have driven a couple of stock early beetle's, a 55, a 57 and owned a 60. All were decent in mud, snow, dirt but no way are they setup like a military vehicle to travel through the woods, off road etc. I'd take a Kubel due to it's light weight, mileage easy of repair but the Jeep wins hands down going through the woods or up/down steep slopes with 4 wheel drive.
I have driven a couple of stock early beetle's, a 55, a 57 and owned a 60. All were decent in mud, snow, dirt but no way are they setup like a military vehicle to travel through the woods, off road etc. I'd take a Kubel due to it's light weight, mileage easy of repair but the Jeep wins hands down going through the woods or up/down steep slopes with 4 wheel drive.
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- Amskeptic
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Re: Schwimmwagen on the Street!?
Bleyseng wrote:I have driven a couple of stock early Jeep's, a 46 and a 50. Pretty good little vehicle as they can crash through the woods or climb/descend steep slopes. Pretty bouncy ride.
I have driven a couple of stock early beetle's, a 55, a 57 and owned a 60. All were decent in mud, snow, dirt but no way are they setup like a military vehicle to travel through the woods, off road etc. I'd take a Kubel due to it's light weight, mileage easy of repair but the Jeep wins hands down going through the woods or up/down steep slopes with 4 wheel drive.
I loved driving our WW II jeep at the summer camp I worked at. Simple, engaging experience. I love a notchy crash box where you feel the gear engagement. The sound of the engine was perfect.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles