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New Vanagon

Post by yondermtn » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:54 am

I'm always browsing craigslist for basically anything and everything, but especially VW stuff. My wife has never been able to get the manual transmission and general finesse of driving our bay window down, so when I saw a local ad for a newer Vanagon with auto trans I had to take look. Long story short, we now own a 1990 Vanagon Multivan.
We bought from the original owner who kept very detailed records including every gas fill-up and maintenance record from day one. There are a couple of leaks that I hope to take care of, but otherwise it drives like a dream.

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Post by luftvagon » Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:50 am

sooo purrty... top of the line.
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Re: New Vanagon

Post by sped372 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:08 am

Sure looks nice! We'll be wanting a full review and comparison vs. the bay!
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Re: New Vanagon

Post by luftvagon » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:43 am

sped372 wrote:Sure looks nice! We'll be wanting a full review and comparison vs. the bay!
There is no comparison here... :bounce: :cherry: :compress: :cyclopsani: :thumbleft: :bootyshake: :salute: :joker: :bom:
We know who wins :)
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Post by yondermtn » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:22 pm

I certainly don't want to open that can of worms, but I can say that I am very impressed with the way the Vanagon drives and handles. The seating position is much better for us taller folks.

My to-do list as of now:

1. Familiarize myself with the cooling system.
2. Replace rear heater valve
3. Locate and repair at least one more coolant leak(I think it's a hose from the t-stat to another distribution pipe)
4. Repair power steering leak at reservoir.
5. Clean up grounds at headlight switch.

That's the short list as of now. If anyone has any advice, lay it on me.
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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:39 pm

luftvagon wrote:
sped372 wrote:Sure looks nice! We'll be wanting a full review and comparison vs. the bay!
There is no comparison here... :bounce: :cherry: :compress: :cyclopsani: :thumbleft: :bootyshake: :salute: :joker: :bom:
We know who wins :)
Yes, there is no comparison here . . .
a baywindow will leave a Vanagon stranded off-road,
a Vanagon will leave a baywindow in the weeds on a twisty road.

NOW THEN, I see one of each at that house, which makes yondermtn the winner here.
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BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:55 pm

yondermtn wrote:Iwe now own a 1990 Vanagon Multivan.
I am officially overcome with the bitterest of jealousy . . .

Shampoo those carpets for that homey feeling, homey.
Colin

(p.s. we do Vanagons . . . )

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BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: New Vanagon

Post by yondermtn » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:09 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
(p.s. we do Vanagons . . . )
Good news :cheers:
I'm sure your services will be welcome in 2014.

I'll be moving the 1977 to cozy heated underground storage tonight and the Vanagon will get the dry, not as cozy, but closer to me spot in the garage next to the boring Honda Odyssey.
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Re: New Vanagon

Post by yondermtn » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:35 pm

I posted this thread over at that other place, but maybe somebody here has some advice too.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=578558
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Re: New Vanagon

Post by Amskeptic » Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:32 pm

yondermtn wrote:I posted this thread over at that other place, but maybe somebody here has some advice too.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=578558
Oh, we're supposed to go OVER THERE to read of your issues, then come back here to answer?
:cherry:

Anyways, as ever, may I invite you to participate in your own discoveries by doing the obvious:

Clean the areas in question very very well. Dry nicely.
Run the engine briefly and check for new evidence.
Run it a bit longer if nothing shows up.
Coolant leaks sometimes can evaporate quicker than you can spot them if the engine gets too warm.

I have no doubt that you can inflame idle speculators with big juicy questions like "what is it" based on a photograph, but only you can find the true sources of your specific leaks here.
"It's probably your head gaskets" is going to get you nowhere.

Lanval and I are field experts at Vanagon water-cooled inspection and repair, be sure to ask him how he tracked down and rehabilitated his cooling system to be reliable .
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: New Vanagon

Post by yondermtn » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:41 am

Thanks Colin!

I've been doing a bunch of reading on the cooling system. A lot of information to wade thru.
High temps in the single digits is not helping matters, but I think I'm going to clean up the engine as best as possible and do some observing and then move towards a pressure test.
The PO ordered me a rear heater replacement valve so I'll install that when it gets here.

According to the maintenance records the system was flushed recently, however, I suspect the coolant to be of the phosphate kind. Does this need to be swapped out immediately?
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Post by Amskeptic » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:12 pm

yondermtn wrote:I suspect the coolant to be of the phosphate kind. Does this need to be swapped out immediately?
Enjoy . . . especially the part about how Volkswagen's prior antifreeze (G11) does not play well with the later (G12) stuff, causing "gel" in the cooling system.

A lot of horsepucky going on . . . I used good old Prestone in my Vanagon for over 100,000 miles.

http://donsnotes.com/home_garden/auto/antifreeze.html
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: New Vanagon

Post by Ryno » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:41 am

Nice Vanagon Chris!....You and the family are going to love it!
Ryan

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Re: New Vanagon

Post by yondermtn » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:49 am

We're already in love. Daydreaming about camping next summer is just what we need when it's below zero :flower:
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Re: New Vanagon

Post by aopisa » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:38 pm

Nice! I think I see a Vanagon in my future too.
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Flow with whatever may happen and let your mind be free. Stay centered by accepting whatever you are doing. This is the ultimate. - Chuang Tzu

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