Crikey! Not Again.
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
I'm on hold a bit. Seriously breached integrity of that seal there on the transaxle side of the CV assembly.
Gave the axles a look and there is a ridge there for the no longer needed washer, that suggests it could perhaps be included, dished away from the CV, but it was a speculative dry run, and none of the new CVs slid easily onto the axles. Gonna take a vice and a bit of persuasion.
I do admit, the bit of engineering there eludes my search for purpose or need. But if it fits, why not?
neal
Gave the axles a look and there is a ridge there for the no longer needed washer, that suggests it could perhaps be included, dished away from the CV, but it was a speculative dry run, and none of the new CVs slid easily onto the axles. Gonna take a vice and a bit of persuasion.
I do admit, the bit of engineering there eludes my search for purpose or need. But if it fits, why not?
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- Amskeptic
- IAC "Help Desk"
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
I use the concave washer. It keeps the inner hub from moving on the driveshaft, it keeps the circlip bound in its groove. Over time, axial movement will erode the splines and bang up the circlips. I have happened across inner hubs that just fall off the axles once this erosion takes hold. Do NOT HAMMER the inner hubs off the driveshaft, as seen in the Type2 write-up. That beavered shoulder is ugly. A simple two-jawed puller is the humane way to go.ruckman101 wrote:I'm on hold a bit. Seriously breached integrity of that seal there on the transaxle side of the CV assembly.
Gave the axles a look and there is a ridge there for the no longer needed washer, that suggests it could perhaps be included, dished away from the CV, but it was a speculative dry run, and none of the new CVs slid easily onto the axles. Gonna take a vice and a bit of persuasion.
I do admit, the bit of engineering there eludes my search for purpose or need. But if it fits, why not?
neal
Orientation:
The single ridge line on the outer hub faces the flange to which it is bolted.
I have seen the inner hub shoulder both ways, but generally I put the smooth flat edge of the inner hub against the concave washer (bottom of the dish against the ridge on the driveshaft itself)
The cage has a subtle chamfer on the inside edge on one side only. This chamfer goes towards the drive axle. It allows the axle shaft to rotate nearby at a nasty angle without touching.
Cleanliness is so critical, but we can get lazy around the mess.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
I totally missed the chamfer on the one side of the inner cage, but luckily only had to dismantle one assembly to set it straight.
Single groove to the flange
Concave washer in place, dish out. If it were dish in, I'm certain the circlip would never properly seat. Flat side of inner race to washer.
Circlip properly seated, raised side of inner race to flange.
No chamfer on this side of cage.
Chamfer. I think I got it.
Mushroom.
Mushroom.
Mushroom.
Back yard.
Already had snow mixed in with the rain the other morning. Cold. Sorry, no kittens. Onto the grease.
neal
Single groove to the flange
Concave washer in place, dish out. If it were dish in, I'm certain the circlip would never properly seat. Flat side of inner race to washer.
Circlip properly seated, raised side of inner race to flange.
No chamfer on this side of cage.
Chamfer. I think I got it.
Mushroom.
Mushroom.
Mushroom.
Back yard.
Already had snow mixed in with the rain the other morning. Cold. Sorry, no kittens. Onto the grease.
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Ok, maybe a couple kitten shots.
There ya go, had to get the cute factor back. I know Hambone would be disappointed otherwise.
neal
There ya go, had to get the cute factor back. I know Hambone would be disappointed otherwise.
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- tristessa
- Trusted Air-Cooled Maniac
- Location: Uwish Uknew, Oregon
- Status: Offline
- hambone
- Post-Industrial Non-Secular Mennonite
- Location: Portland, Ore.
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Eating? I thought they were for
http://greencascadia.blogspot.com
http://pdxvolksfolks.blogspot.com
it balances on your head just like a mattress balances on a bottle of wine
your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat
http://pdxvolksfolks.blogspot.com
it balances on your head just like a mattress balances on a bottle of wine
your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat
- dtrumbo
- IAC Addict!
- Location: Mill Creek, WA
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Hopefully that engine will purr just as sweet!
- Dick
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
- Amskeptic
- IAC "Help Desk"
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Concave washer goes the other way, Sr. Certain.ruckman101 wrote: Concave washer in place, dish out. If it were dish in, I'm certain the circlip would never properly seat. Flat side of inner race to washer.
The outside edge of the concave washer spreads its force against the flat surface of the inner hub. The inside edge of the concave washer butts against the ridge on the driveshaft. It is SUPPOSED to be compressed as you seat the circlip! That is what keeps things nice and tight even when the driveshaft gets a workout. It is not difficult to seat the circlip with the concave washer in place. You merely press down on the edges of the circlip with your fingers as you spread the edges with your expanding pliers so you can push the circlip over the entire end of the driveshaft. Once it is going down to meet the driveshaft groove-almost-hidden-by-the-hub, you just hit the circlip with a hammer on a 30? 36? mm socket over the end of the driveshaft and it plinks into place in the groove, oh ye of little faith.
Colin
(do not worry about it at this point in time, the fact that it is present at all, will limit movement)
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Dang it. They're all lubed up and in place. Just need to torque them down. Would have had the engine in today at the latest if my back hadn't decided to treat me to excruciating pain upon the slightest movement. Just got back from the chiropractor, no miracles.
Going to supervise Cheryle through the process Saturday. She won't let me near Bertha at this point.
I'm going to cry,
neal
Going to supervise Cheryle through the process Saturday. She won't let me near Bertha at this point.
I'm going to cry,
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- hambone
- Post-Industrial Non-Secular Mennonite
- Location: Portland, Ore.
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
I wish you were closer, we could save our sob-water and make some kind of winter sake.
Hang in there, it's all you can do. I would help you if I wasn't up to my ears in my own cat-asstrophy.
Hang in there, it's all you can do. I would help you if I wasn't up to my ears in my own cat-asstrophy.
http://greencascadia.blogspot.com
http://pdxvolksfolks.blogspot.com
it balances on your head just like a mattress balances on a bottle of wine
your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat
http://pdxvolksfolks.blogspot.com
it balances on your head just like a mattress balances on a bottle of wine
your brand new leopard skin pillbox hat
- Amskeptic
- IAC "Help Desk"
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
I'll join in and we can have hot sake.hambone wrote:I wish you were closer, we could save our sob-water and make some kind of winter sake.
Hang in there, it's all you can do. I would help you if I wasn't up to my ears in my own cat-asstrophy.
Hot Tears for Hot Heads.
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
How many steps back?
My snip fashioned cylinder head deflector tins seemed to work pretty well. Here's the thermostat side. Rod moves freely.
However, something is off.
I get the thermostat threaded on, and the rod must be backwards somehow with the little bit of curve, as the bracket won't even touch the stud much less tighten down. Sure, I could tighten it down, but then everything would be bound up and inoperable.
Here it is, pulled down, flaps closed. Rather than spacers and a longer stud, gonna have to pull the shroud and scratch my head some and get this figured out. At least I decided to get the thermostat adjusted before engine went into Bertha.
neal
My snip fashioned cylinder head deflector tins seemed to work pretty well. Here's the thermostat side. Rod moves freely.
However, something is off.
I get the thermostat threaded on, and the rod must be backwards somehow with the little bit of curve, as the bracket won't even touch the stud much less tighten down. Sure, I could tighten it down, but then everything would be bound up and inoperable.
Here it is, pulled down, flaps closed. Rather than spacers and a longer stud, gonna have to pull the shroud and scratch my head some and get this figured out. At least I decided to get the thermostat adjusted before engine went into Bertha.
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- Amskeptic
- IAC "Help Desk"
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Was this the case before your head deflectors were installed?ruckman101 wrote:the bracket won't even touch the stud much less tighten down.
If yes, rod may be in wrong hole passing through the head.
If no, fix the head deflector position.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- ruckman101
- Lord God King Bwana
- Location: Up next to a volcano.
- Contact:
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
This was the first time I had tried to mount the thermostat into it's bracket. Rod is fine at it's current relaxed position in terms of working the flaps. So I'm pretty sure it's a rod issue. Although, I referenced positioning based on Bertha's set-up, obviously not necessarily a proper set-up, but it worked.
Rod is fed through the cylinder head hole closest to the case, but the end curve would at first glance appear to be 90 degrees off. Processing, processing, yes, haven't left out the deflector orientation as a potential conflict, either.
neal
Rod is fed through the cylinder head hole closest to the case, but the end curve would at first glance appear to be 90 degrees off. Processing, processing, yes, haven't left out the deflector orientation as a potential conflict, either.
neal
The slipper has no teeth.
- SlowLane
- IAC Addict!
- Location: Livermore, CA
- Status: Offline
Re: Crikey! Not Again.
Hey Neal, I think you have the deflector installed the wrong way around. Both Colin's original photo and my Beetle Bentley show the slot facing towards the cylinder side of the head, not the rocker side.
'81 Canadian Westfalia (2.0L, manual), now Californiated
"They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance."
- Terry Pratchett
"They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it is not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance."
- Terry Pratchett