Why do tinfoil hat types arrogate to themselves the position of superior intellect and vision? Why is it that everyone who doesn't share your (vastly minority) belief is a sheep ~ do you have some divine insight...? If so, then share. Otherwise, stick to the facts and stop operating as if you alone share the knowledge of how the black box works.steve74baywin wrote:Humans, humans, humans, it just goes to show we have mostly humans here posting.
I see many things here. We have a person or two that is probably just trying to keep a discussion going. Oddly some jump in and think he is mucking the whole thing up, but the discussion kinda ended, but he is trying to keep it going. I see this on several threads.
Discussions seem to be a bit lacking. As usual there are probably different reason for different people as to why they don't post. Maybe some of the trivial arguments backing long time political ideologies finally seem silly. Maybe many are just dumb founded with the world in general. You ought to be if you got some thinking still going on in that brain.
I realize all people are at different levels and stages and unless a person has come across certain info in their life they aren't going to be as far a long as some.
But most of the people who have been engaged in discussions like on here in the past few years must have some major, major doubts about the system we've believed we have, I can not imagine anyone seriously standing behind either Dems or Repubs, or just about anyone even close to being elected. That has to have weighed in on people and given them a general disgust and distaste for discussing things political anymore.
Then there are the few who don't really join in, they just add the same un-thought about repeated propaganda from the news, this adds even more disgust to an already sad state of affairs.
The fun is let out of the bottle once one realizes they have to go to the LIE part of the doublethink in order to hold discussions about the popular world events.
Your debate isn't political in any meaningful sense because:
A. You assume you are right and the rest of us are blind
B. No matter what information/evidence you're presented with, you shove it aside in favor of your (unverifiable) superior knowledge
Jesus; even die-hard enemies like the Federalists and Jeffersonian Democrats understood shared perspective and compromise were the foundations of democracy. So long as you treat everyone who doesn't share your point of view as so much garbage, you are the problem, NOT the solution.
My main problem with Turk isn't his set of beliefs, but his unwillingness to even approximate rational discussion of them. If you're going to shout others down, don't be surprised that they don't like it; but I wouldn't go around throwing aspersions their way either.
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