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Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
by Abscate
Theresa May Not.
The simple problem with Brexit is that popular votes are not a good way to run a representative democracy other than to elect governance.
A 55-45 vote on a complex issue is not a mandate, and any politician of character should get up and say "This is more complex than we thought and we need to slow down"
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm
by tristessa
Abscate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
and any politician of character
Sadly, those are in very short supply, both nationally and globally.
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:17 am
by JLT
tristessa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm
Abscate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
and any politician of character
Sadly, those are in very short supply, both nationally and globally.
Yup. All we seem to have now are politicians who are characters.
Not all of them, though. There are good people out there, but the voters have to put aside many of their preconceptions about gender, political orientation, and race to properly evaluate them. It's the electorate that is to blame, really, for not doing their homework and going instead with their fears and their biases. And, sadly, the most successful politicians are the ones who are best at playing onthose fears and biases.
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:29 am
by Amskeptic
JLT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:17 am
tristessa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm
Abscate wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm
and any politician of character
Sadly, those are in very short supply, both nationally and globally.
Yup. All we seem to have now are politicians who are characters.
Not all of them, though. There are good people out there, but the voters have to put aside many of their preconceptions about gender, political orientation, and race to properly evaluate them. It's the electorate that is to blame, really, for not doing their homework and going instead with their fears and their biases. And, sadly, the most successful politicians are the ones who are best at playing onthose fears and biases.
I blame the schools and the marketing universe and our evolving laziness. We really need a catastrophe. That'll re-orient us to what is important once more, and it may remind us HOW we rely on each other.
Colin
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:32 pm
by hippiewannabe
Has anyone else thought what a tragedy it is that Graham Chapman is gone, now that Boris Johnson is PM?
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:06 am
by JLT
hippiewannabe wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:32 pm
Has anyone else thought what a tragedy it is that Graham Chapman is gone, now that Boris Johnson is PM?
Never thought of it that way. One, of course, is famous for his madcap take on reality and his outlandish behavior. The other was a member of Monty Python.
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:37 am
by hippiewannabe
JLT wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:06 am
Never thought of it that way. One, of course, is famous for his madcap take on reality and his outlandish behavior. The other was a member of Monty Python.
Ha, good one. I can hear him now:
I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:02 am
by JLT
hippiewannabe wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:37 am
I think all righthtinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired
Like that classic Tom Lehrer quote:
"We should all love our fellow man. Now I know that there are some people in this world who do not love their fellow man and
I hate people like that!
"
Re: Is brexit dead?
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:57 am
by Abscate
And it looks like for the record, I was wrong. So long,Britain.