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IMHO - saying we need term limits is adjudicating our responsibility to vote for the best candidate. I don't want some arbitrary law eliminating someone who could be a really good choice for me.hambone wrote: There are those out there with no other aim but to bunch panties. It's like arguing with a pretzel.
Campaign Finance Reform!TrollFromDownBelow wrote:IMHO - saying we need term limits is adjudicating our responsibility to vote for the best candidate. I don't want some arbitrary law eliminating someone who could be a really good choice for me.
Now, if you are implying that the current process wherein the political parties create their voting districts, so that each party has a 'lock' on its own self created little fiefdom.....that is an argument I can get behind.
hambone wrote: There are those out there with no other aim but to bunch panties. It's like arguing with a pretzel.
Why *would* you gerrymander such insane-looking districts that defy all logic and rationale as far as representation? Because you are feverishly trying to defend your lock on the gravy train?TrollFromDownBelow wrote: I think gerrymandering has a much more significant impact than does finance reform....
Won't work or happen as long as those in office continue to be allowed to serve in office. Voting for Hillary or Barnie (cause that's his name) effectively continues the same inept corrupt cycle. Both of them have been a part of that cycle for several decades now. Remember the old saying? "If your not part of a solution than you are part of the problem."asiab3 wrote:I think for a broken system to get fixed, those in charge must realize and admit that the system is broken. Perhaps this could be a way for that to happen?MonoCone wrote: With a 4-party race you could end up with no one getting a majority and then the election would go to the House. The Republican controlled house. Then what....Nutty Donald? Teddy Cruz? Could be anyone.
Robbie
Indeed. It's what I've stated all along. It's why they are scared of Trump. He can't be bought and with him the salad gets tossed big time. Voting for Hillary or Barnie effectively changes nothing. Business as usual in DC.wcfvw69 wrote:That's the problem Robbie. The system is benefiting THEM. They and their rich buddies with their special interests who fund their election campaigns believe things are just fine the way they are. Look at how wide the gap continues to grow between the rich and poor and the diminishing middle class, especially over the past 30-40 years. Look at the national deficit size and how far it's gotten out of control with no end in sight to its continuing growth.asiab3 wrote:I think for a broken system to get fixed, those in charge must realize and admit that the system is broken. Perhaps this could be a way for that to happen?MonoCone wrote: With a 4-party race you could end up with no one getting a majority and then the election would go to the House. The Republican controlled house. Then what....Nutty Donald? Teddy Cruz? Could be anyone.
Robbie
There's a reason that Bernie and Trump have been the darlings this election season. They were/are viewed as outside of the NORM for Washington and it's same ole, same ole bullshit. Sadly, I just don't see things changing anytime soon. These douche bags get elected to Washington with promises of "change" and fall right in line with the career idiots who've done nothing but screw up this country.
Something drastic is going to have to happen for any real change to take place in Washington. Term limits for congress and the senate are something that has to take place. I'm watching John McCain reelection commercials here in Arizona. I want to throw up in my mouth. We really need to re-elect this man who's been in office for 29 years.. 29 years.. Fuck, he's 79 years old as well and certainly doesn't want to let go of the power and limelite.
I was hoping the animosity Americans have for these career politicians would translate into a movement to start funding an effort to get these career politicians defeated the next time they run for re-election.
Until we flush all the career politicians out of Washington and change the process in how they get elected, I don't see any changes taking place anytime soon.
I'd like to know why you think that. I don't have a problem with people trying to be nice to each other, and I certainly don't have a problem trying to help others less-fortunate than myself, but I'm curious why some people think that is causing some kind of imaginary downfall of our country.72Hardtop wrote:[Trump is] also sick and tired of how damn PC this country has become as are most Americans. Progressive liberalism is the true enemy.
ruckman101 wrote:I hang up on a Trump robo-call every other day. One of the joys of still keeping a land line. I'll be voting against him, but sorely wish I could be doing it with a vote for Bernie.
neal