YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

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Re: YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

Post by ruckman101 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:15 pm

From a pessimistic rant of an article to optimism. Hey, I like that. What would a "feet on the street" response look like, or a day to day? Certainly I can see returning corporations to the abstract business model it is, answerable to the public regarding the benefits to the public that must be served in order to incorporate in the first place, stripped of "personhood" as a worthy start, but ... the issue seems overwhelmingly large and far and above any efforts on my part to impact.

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Re: YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

Post by denjohn » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:30 pm

ruckman101 wrote: What would a "feet on the street" response look like, or a day to day?
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I don't think there is a quick and easy answer to that.
The best place that I know of to start to get a handle on our current problems and some of their causes was suggested here:
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Re: YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

Post by denjohn » Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:33 am

Why Has the American Economic System Failed, and What Are We Going To Do About It?

"We always want to keep in mind what the function, the purpose, of the economy is. The purpose of an economy is not producing GDP. It is increasing the welfare of citizens, and it is increasing the welfare of most citizens. And the American economic system has failed, and failed very badly. Most Americans today are worse off, most American households have lower real income adjusted for inflation than they had fifteen years ago."


Joe Stiglitz made an aside about half way through his talk about mercantilism at INET Berlin this month that is worth noting.

Although he initially addresses it to America, he goes on to include other countries, especially Germany. I would add the UK, among others.

I start the tape of his talk at 13:25, so you can hear the basic question and the simple truth that so many have overlooked. The American economic system has failed the public, and that failure has its roots in the 1990's, accelerating at the turn of the century into the financial collapse. It is a story of deceit, corruption, and betrayal.

And the majority of the people, who have suffered the most from this injustice, are being asked to suffer even more for a system that does not benefit them and actually works against them. And they are asking, 'is it worthy of our support?'

And history indicates that they will provide an answer that may be unpalatable for those who benefit the most from the current unsustainable arrangement, who are enriched by the misery of others.

I cannot say it more simply or more emphatically, that the gaming of the system by the monied interests, marked by but not wholly due to the repeal of Glass-Steagall, the trade agreement with China without a floating exchange rate, and the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy while initiating aggressive war on multiple fronts, have set the American economy on a spiral of demise and eventual self-destruction.

What has institutionalized this demise and made it pernicious is the corruption of American power and distortion of thought by big money, and the short term selfishness and self-interest of the status quo. That is what I call the credibility trap.

Giving even more money to the Banks, and asking the people to pay for it, in the hope that it will eventually trickle down to the people from whom it has been stolen is not a policy, and not even a policy failure. It is an obscenity.

I sense we are in the negotiation phase, in which the powerful monied interests want to be let off with a wrist slap, and no admission of guilt. And of course for change to come slowly, maximizing their returns.

The powerful think that they are the system, the economy and the government, and that it exists to serve them. And so any change must suit their needs, first and above all. But a prideful greed and will to power can never really contain itself, as it can never be truly satiated. It always craves just a little more.

But reform will come, one way or the other. The writing is on the wall.
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Re: YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

Post by dingo » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:25 pm

i dunno..i think you have to dig beneath the surface and go back to creation of the Fed in 1913 which lopped off the head of capitalism, and set into motion all manner of mis-allocations in huge proportions....starting with the crash of 29...then maybe 1971 cutting loose from gold...after that each successive artificial boom received its natural comeuppance but was covered over with successive floods of cheap money...until here we are !!
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Re: YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET – PART ONE

Post by denjohn » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:53 pm

dingo wrote:i dunno..i think you have to dig beneath the surface and go back to creation of the Fed in 1913 which lopped off the head of capitalism, and set into motion all manner of mis-allocations in huge proportions....starting with the crash of 29...then maybe 1971 cutting loose from gold...after that each successive artificial boom received its natural comeuppance but was covered over with successive floods of cheap money...until here we are !!
Well said, dingo.
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