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Bus Buyer's Checklist

Post by hambone » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:04 am

Good for those new in th' bizness.

http://wetwesties.tripod.com/buyers.txt

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USED BUS BUYER'S GUIDE

By Tobin Copley and Christa Ovenell, for the air-cooled Volkswagen bus
mailing list and web site at www.type2.com. This checklist is designed
primarily for 1968-79 Volkswagen Westfalia campers, but should have
application for other vehicles as well.

This checklist adapted from the "Used car buyer's guide" published on
the internet by Scions of Lucas (SOL), (c) 1991. Permission to freely
copy and distribute all or portion of this checklist is hereby granted
provided that all of the following apply: it is not made part of another
copyrighted work, the source is acknowledged, this copyright notice is
retained, and no aspect of the distribution is for profit.

Original work by SOL based on a guide written by
Lawrence Buja & Roger Garnett

PART 1. MECHNICAL INSPECTION CHECKLIST.
--- FIRST PHONE CONTACT:

Name: ______________________________________ [affix original ad here]
Address: ______________________________________

Phone: (h) ______________ (w) ______________

Date/Time: ______________________________________
1. Can you describe the car and its condition?
2. Does it run well?
3. How is the:
Body?
Any Rust? Ask specifically:
- under windshield?
- under battery tray(s)?
- wheel wells, esp. behind front wheels & in front of rear wheels?
- rocker panels?
Paint? (original? repainted?--why?)
Interior?
Tires?
Engine?
Brakes?
Shocks?
4. If it is a camper, is it a Westfalia or some other conversion
company?
5. What special features or options does it have?
6. Why are you selling it?
7. How long have you owned it? ...had it for sale?
8. Is it currently registered and licensed?
9. Where is the car located?
10. How many miles does it have on it? [15K/yr?]
11. What problems have you had with the car?
12. Has it ever been hit or in an accident?
13. What work does it need done on it now?
14. How much are you asking for it? or What's the least you're willing
to take for it?

---QUESTIONS TO ASK YOURSELF:
Why am I buying this car?
What do I intend to do with it?
Will it be my commute vehicle?
What service and support is locally available?
Will I be driving it year-round or summer only?
Do I want to work on the car more than driving it?
Am I willing to pay a premium because someone else has already done most
of the serious work on the car?
What is the most that I'm willing to pay for this car?
What is the least that I think that the car can be had for?

--- SUGGESTIONS:
1. Read some of the "How to buy Used Cars" books available at your
library. They provide useful strategies and cautions that go far
beyond the scope of this list. Also, review this list carefully before using
it.

2. Always inspect/take delivery of the vehicle in the broad daylight,
never in the evening/night or in the rain.

3. Arrange to inspect the bus at a time when the engine will be stone
cold so you can check valve clearances if necessary and cold-starting
ability.

4. A clean piece of cardboard placed under the engine/trans after the
test-drive will help show fluid leaks.

5. In some states, older non-titled vehicles may be titled with just a
bill of sale. Other states may require an additional security bond to
be posted. Use extreme caution in either of these cases!

6. Require seller have the vehicle pass all state inspections (safety,
emissions) at a mutually agreeable shop (NOT one of his choosing)
before you pay for it. Old (>30days) inspections are of absolutely no use to
you.

7. A general guide to reading exhaust smoke:
Black smoke = unburned fuel
Valves bad or out of adjustment? Carb out of adjustment?
Blue smoke = burning oil
Accelerating: Piston rings bad? Decelerating: Valve seats/guides bad?

--- TOOLS TO BRING FOR INSPECTION: (Allow 2-3 hours for the inspection)

Essentials: A cynical, mechanically-minded friend, Your standard tool
set plus 17mm allen key (or one made of 10mm bolt and 2 nuts),
Voltmeter, Compression Gauge, Tire gauge, Flashlight, Magnet, the 2 different spark
plug sockets, spray lube, clean rags Clipboard, pen and hi-liter to use
with a photocopy of this list, some cash, drivers license and copy of your
insurance showing you are covered driving the sellers car.

Optional: tow rope, starting fluid, jumper cables, timing light, ramps,
jack (floor or scissors), mirror, coveralls, rags, gas can, oil, duct
tape, wire, repair manuals, misc. fuses, calculator

--- ADDITIONAL POST-CHECKLIST QUESTIONS:

Original Owner? ___________________________________________________
Names/nums of previous owners available? _____________________
What regular maintenance was done? Records? ______________________
Who was your mechanic? name/address/phone? _______________________
What gas mileage have you been getting? ___________________________
Are there any repair or gas mileage records? ______________________
Oil change interval? ______________________________________________
Type of oil used? ____________________________________________
How old are the tires? ____________________________________________
Battery? _____________________________________________________
Has it passed emissions recently? _________________________________
Where? _______________________________________________________
Has any bodywork ever been done? __________________________________
Why? _________________________________________________________
Receipts? ____________________________________________________
Any mechanical work recently? _____________________________________
Where? _______________________________________________________
Receipts? ____________________________________________________
What work remains to be done or corrected? ________________________
Are there any missing parts? ______________________________________
Do you have any extra parts or wheels for it? _____________________
What new/aftermarket parts are in the car? ________________________
Receipts? ____________________________________________________
Was it ever used for towing? ______________________________________
Has it ever been crashed, burnt, stolen, hit or rolled? ___________
How was the car generally driven? _________________________________
On highway or in town? _______________________________________
Are the engine, transmission, steering, differential original? ____
(If not, why not? Origin and receipts?) _____________________
Do you have any books about the car or the engine? ________________
(repair books, owners manuals, history or general
interest, parts catalogs, club newsletters)
Any interesting history? __________________________________________
Has it ever been raced? ______________________________________
Are there any tools that come with the car? _______________________
Do you know of any parts cars or good parts sources? ______________

PART 2. EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR INSPECTION. (Don't start the engine yet)

---OWNERSHIP VERIFICATION: (Do all of the following agree and seem right?)

Name on title: ____________________________________________________
Name on registration: _____________________________________________
Model/Year on title: ______________________________________________
VIN on title: _____________________________________________________
VIN on registration: ______________________________________________
VIN on dash: ______________________________________________________
VIN on door: ______________________________________________________
Mileage on title: _________________________________________________
Mileage on odometer: ______________________________________________
Price on title: ___________________________________________________
Asking price: _____________________________________________________
Blue Book price: __________________________________________________

---IS THE CAR READY TO SELL:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Title ready for transfer? Any liens?
___ _____ Do body numbers match those on title?
___ _____ Title in sellers name?
___ _____ Do body numbers match registration?
___ _____ Current Emissions certificate, < 30 days old?
___ _____ Current registration? Current Plates?
___ _____ Current Safety certificate if req'd, <30days?

---EXTERIOR WALK-AROUND:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Check door edges and underside for rust/tears
___ _____ Check doors/hinges for stress/tears
___ _____ Doors/hoods open/close freely? Rubs?
___ _____ Driver's door / passenger door / sliding door / rear hatch / engine
___ _____ hatch
___ _____ Is anything obviously broken?
___ _____ Are lights cracked, dented or broken?
___ _____ Car sits level? (view from all sides)
___ _____ Are bumpers dinged? Rusty? Loose? Level?
___ _____ Rear bumper sooty or oily?
___ _____ Paint OK? All panels same shade? Cracks? Overspray?
___ _____ Any of the trim or hubcaps rusty or missing?
___ _____ New paint? Why? Any body ripples?
___ _____ Find bottom of trunk/side wells. Rust? Holes?
___ _____ Rust/repair on body? Fenders? Sills?
___ _____ Any Bondo? Fiberglas? (magnet) Why?
___ _____ Lift rubber mat in front door step. Rusty? Holes?
___ _____ Rubber parts and seals condition? Cracked?
___ _____ Any fender dings or misalignment? Why?
___ _____ Gas tank & fill hose OK? Gas smell?
___ _____ Door/engine hatch dings? Misalignment? Why?
___ _____ Jack in bus? OK? Spare tire good? Pressure? Jack points good?
___ _____ Have jack? works? Bilstein jack fits in all four jack points?
___ _____ Tires: Tread? Bulges? Cracks? (Check from under bus too)
___ _____ Tires all the same model/brand? LT / "C" rated tires?
___ _____ Rims: Bent? Rusted? Cracks? All the same?

---UNDERSIDE: GET UNDER THE BUS.
(USE MAGNET EXTENSIVELY THROUGH THIS SECTION!)
A POWERFUL FLASHLIGHT IS INVALUABLE HERE
USE A LARGE SCREWDRIVER TO TEST FOR RUST OR WEAK METAL.
Start at front of bus and work back.
OK Not-OK
___ _____ Brake disks grooved? Brake pads? Any leaks?
___ _____ Rubber brake lines OK? None brittle, cracked, etc.?
___ _____ Axle beam lubrication points in good shape? Residual grease___ _____
___ _____ still there?
___ _____ Axle beam has excess grease showing at both ends of beam (kept
___ _____ greased)?
___ _____ Check for rust on axle beam (screwdriver). Joint with steering___
___ _____ box OK?
___ _____ End plates, connection to body OK? Rust apparent anywhere else
___ _____ on beam?
___ _____ Ball joint boots intact (upper & lower, check carefully)?
___ _____ Tie rods straight? Tie rod end boots intact?
___ _____ Steering damper in place?
___ _____ Have friend turn steering wheel: steering arm stays level
___ _____ (no up/down movement?)
___ _____ Look at underside of front door steps, body lip forward of
___ _____ front wheels: rust?
___ _____ Any underbody/floor pan rust?
___ _____ Any rocker panel or wheel well rust? Check particularly in
___ _____ entire vertical area immediately behind each front wheel. Pay
___ _____ special attention to inside of rocker panels, sliding door track.
___ _____ Are main frame members rusted? Dogs? Jack points?
___ _____ Is heater hose from heater boxes in place and intact?
___ _____ Is there a underbelly gas heater (Eberspacher BA-6)?
___ _____ Cap from westy sink in place?
___ _____ Anything dented? Bent? Welded? Why?
___ _____ Any evidence of ground clearance damage?
___ _____ Shift rod straight, coupling good?
___ _____ Clutch cable in good condition?
___ _____ Any leaks from transmission or differential?
___ _____ Use 17mm allen key to undo transmission fill plug and check fluid
___ _____ level
___ _____ Check for rust: rear frame members, jack points, wheel wells
___ _____ Check fuel lines under bus. All OK, no cracking, no wet
___ _____ connections?
___ _____ Fuel pump secure, no leaking anywhere?
___ _____ Turn, push/pull driveshaft by hand
___ _____ Any movement or slop? Shafts should move smoothly in/out, but not
___ _____ rotate
___ _____ Constant velocity joint boots OK?
___ _____ (check all the way around, all four joints)
___ _____ Any oil leaks from engine? Where?
_______________________________
___ _____ All lower engine tin in place?
___ _____ If engine tin oily, remove tin, search for probable source of
___ _____ leaking. Most likely source is push-rod tube seals, but check is
___ _____ leaking where cylinder mates with case.
___ _____ Condition of heater boxes? Exhaust parts? Rusty? Solid & original?
___ _____ Patched/hacked? Properly aligned? Muffler dented?
___ _____ Look for rust under battery tray(s).
___ _____ Tire wear even?
___ _____ All shocks & struts damp OK? Any leaks? Creaks or squeaks?
___ _____ Tail pipe: Grey=OK, sooty/oily/greasy=Not-OK
___ _____ Anything hanging down, taped or wired up?
___ _____ Any non-stock suspension mods?
___ _____ Suspension loose? Jack up each wheel in turn.
___ _____ Pull on side/top of wheels (9 & 3 o'clock, 12 & 6)

---UNDER HOOD:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Anything broken? Patched? Leaking?
___ _____ Is engine clean? Any rust? Stock?
___ _____ All engine compartment seals in place? No light showing through
___ _____ seals?
___ _____ Has it overheated? Paint blistered?
___ _____ Check oil level. Look for oil leaks visible in engine compartment.
___ _____ Any play in main crankshaft pulley?!$
___ _____ Any play in any of the other pulleys?
___ _____ Belts cracked? frayed? missing?
___ _____ Heater hoses OK? Hoses stiff? Cracked? Patched?
___ _____ Vacuum hoses stiff? Patched? Capped? Missing?
___ _____ Fuel lines stiff? cracked? wet? (!)
___ _____ Is emissions equip original & working?!$
___ _____ Are catalytic converters original & working?$
___ _____ Distributor, cap, rotor, and points OK? Check ignition wires.
___ _____ Wiring harness appearance? Any new electrical tape?
___ _____ Any non-stock engine modifications? What?
___ _____ Remove grounding cable, check for shorts.
___ _____ Battery age/voltage ______/_____ volts

---INTERIOR/ELECTRICAL:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Is anything broken? Torn? Patched?
___ _____ Open fuse box. Any missing? Any wiring hacks?
___ _____ Headliner OK? Gashes, mold, warping, screws missing?
___ _____ Carpets OK? Underlayment condition?
___ _____ Rubber covering over front seat risers OK?
___ _____ Check for rust under mat at front seat belt anchor points
___ _____ (remove 17mm bolt to check). Check rear belt anchor points
___ _____ over wheel well. (Both are very common--and hidden--rust spots)
___ _____ Rust, rot or water under the carpets?
___ _____ Any wiring hacks under the dash?
___ _____ Seats dirty or torn? Look under cover. Springs look broken?
___ _____ Do both seats adjust?
___ _____ Dash cracked?
___ _____ Windshield cracked? Chips? Scratched? Delaminating?
___ _____ Windows all open & close? Any cracks? Remember rear vent window!
___ _____ Mirrors all present and adjustable?
___ _____ Steering play? Does shaft move at all? Why?
___ _____ Brake pedal feels right? Smooth? Firm?
___ _____ Clutch pedal feels right? Smooth?
___ _____ All gauges/controls work? Stereo? Tape?
___ _____ Headlights high/low work? Lenses OK?
___ _____ Tail and side lights all work? Lenses OK?
___ _____ Brake lights all work? Any broken lenses?
___ _____ Turn signals all work? Any broken lenses?
___ _____ Windshield wipers & washer work?
___ _____ Heater, defroster, and fans work?

(CAMPER ONLY):

___ _____ All cabinetry in good condition? All doors/drawers lock closed
___ _____ securely?
___ _____ Wardrobe closet mirror in place and OK?
___ _____ Lower bed folds down OK? Cushion smooth?
___ _____ Upper bed folds down OK? Cushion smooth?
___ _____ Camping lights work?
___ _____ Dual battEries in place and OK? Isolator in place and working?
___ _____ Shore power hook-up works? A/C inverter OK?
___ _____ Propane tank OK? (look for rust, dents, corroded/bent valves)
___ _____ Passenger seat swivels OK?
___ _____ Front curtain accounted for? All snaps in place? Tears, rips?
___ _____ Check all other curtains. All there? Snaps all work? Tears, rips?
___ _____ Rear bug screen?
___ _____ Child's cot accounted for and complete?
___ _____ Between seat chest in good condition?
___ _____ Sliding door runs smoothly? Latches/unlatches OK?
___ _____ Jalousie windows open/close/seal? Lift each pane in turn with
___ _____ window closed. Bug screens OK?
___ _____ Stove works? Test all burners, both high and low flame
___ _____ Stove pilot light starter and propane shut-off OK?
___ _____ Icebox/fridge OK? Check for cracks. Fridge cools on AC, DC,
___ _____ propane?
___ _____ Gas or propane heater installed? Works? CO2 detector
___ _____ installed/working?
___ _____ Sink pump works? City water connection works? Cabinetry to protect
___ _____ sink pump in place?
___ _____ Pop-top seals all good?
___ _____ Pop-top fiberglass OK? No cracks/leaks? Top sits level?
___ _____ Luggage rack tie-downs all in place and secure?
___ _____ Luggage rack bucket OK without cracks or warping?
___ _____ Pop-top opens OK? Latch releases smoothly and securely?
___ _____ Pop-top canvas in good condition? No tears, wear-thru spots or
___ _____ hacked patches? Canvas tight all the way around?
___ _____ Pop-top window covers OK? Zipper intact and runs OK?
___ _____ Pop-top bug screens OK? Zipper intact and runs OK?
___ _____ Pop-top canvas gasket where meets body tight and in good
___ _____ condition?
___ _____ Pop-top closes OK? Latch catches smoothly and securely?
___ _____ Safety equipment (seat belts, horn work?)
___ _____ Fire extinguisher(s) in place and properly charged?
___ _____ Main westfalia table (dining table) in place and in good
___ _____ condition?
___ _____ Main westfalia table leg in place? Table assembles securely?
___ _____ Small westfalia table (for between front seats) accounted for
___ _____ and in good condition? Table leg for this table accounted for?
___ _____ Table assembles securely?

PART 3: ENGINE START-UP, RUNNING, AND TEST DRIVE.

---IGNITION ON, BUT DON'T START ENGINE:
OK Not-OK
___ _____ Temp light should come on! Connected?
___ _____ Oil warning light should come on! Connected?
___ _____ Charge warning light should come on!

---START THE ENGINE YOURSELF:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Oil warning light goes out?
___ _____ Charge warning light goes out?
___ _____ Do all idiot lights go on/out right?
___ _____ Are all the instruments working?
___ _____ Does it start easily when cold?
___ _____ Does it run smoothly when cold?
___ _____ Depress clutch several times. Noises?
___ _____ Oil Pressure: idle_______ 4000 RPM_______
___ _____ Volts/Amps: idle_______ 4000 RPM_______
___ _____ Any odd engine noises when cold?
___ _____ Exhaust condition/noises? Pressure even?
___ _____ Cap pipe with clipboard. Any exhaust leaks?
___ _____ Any deposits on clipboard? Does it smoke?
___ _____ Turn car off. Does it restart? Restart again.
___ _____ Now pull forward. Check for leaks on ground.
___ _____ Do you have any gas? Does gauge really work?

---TEST DRIVE (Allow 30-40 minutes)
OK Not-OK
___ _____ Test the foot and hand brakes first!
___ _____ Relax, drive a bit to get used to it.
___ _____ How does car ride? Soft or hard?
___ _____ Revs smoothly to red line? flatspots?
___ _____ Any unusual engine noises/vibrations?
___ _____ Any drive train noises or vibrations?
___ _____ Any noticeable slop in drive train?
___ _____ Reverse works? Rev.lights go on/off?
___ _____ Trans shifts smoothly to all gears?
___ _____ Any clunks, whines, rumbles, rattles?
___ _____ Clutch smooth? Slippage on hill test?
___ _____ Hand brake works? Test against engine
___ _____ Is the low engine speed operation OK?
___ _____ Brakes strongly to stop from 50mph?
___ _____ Do brakes still work? Stops straight?
___ _____ Make 2 tight 360' turns each way. Any noises?
___ _____ Accelerates smoothly from dead stop?
___ _____ Are there any hesitations/flat spots?
___ _____ Does the power seem right? Hill test.
___ _____ Is it running too hot or cold? Why?
___ _____ Drive beside a long wall. Any unusual sounds?
___ _____ Is it too noisy in general at highway speeds?
___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when accelerating?
___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when coasting?
___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when decelerating?
___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when braking?
___ _____ (Do each of these two or three times) Accelerate to 10 MPH in
___ _____ first, let off gas sharply: pops out of gear?
___ _____ Accelerate to 20 MPH in second, let off gas sharply: pops out of
___ _____ gear?
___ _____ Accelerate to 35 MPH in third, let off gas sharply: pops out of
___ _____ gear?
___ _____ Accelerate to 50 MPH in fourth, let off gas sharply: pops out of
___ _____ gear?
___ _____ Accelerate in reverse, let off gas sharply: pops out of gear?
___ _____ Any noises or vibrations when braking?
___ _____ Steering action loose or tight? Parallel park.
___ _____ Handles OK on bumps, curves and sharp corners?
___ _____ Tracks straight with hands off steering wheel?
___ _____ Brakes straight with hands off steering wheel?
___ _____ Brakes still work? Pulls? Pulse? Drag? Noises?
___ _____ Having fun yet? Comfortable? Does it fit?
___ _____ Do the heater, defroster and AC work right?
___ _____ Are all the instruments & lights still working?
___ _____ Now let it idle a while. Is temp stable/OK?
___ _____ Any exhaust, gas or other odors? Pull forward.
___ _____ Turn it off. Go back to check ground for leaks.

Have friend get out and watch the car driving:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Tracks straight? (Frame bent?)
___ _____ Smokes?
___ _____ Wheels wobble? Any noises?
___ _____ Leans? General impression?

---POST DRIVE:

OK Not-OK
___ _____ Open hood. See or hear anything unusual?
___ _____ Does engine seem too hot?
___ _____ Check for fluid leaks after shutdown. (Oil, Trans, Fuel,
___ _____ Differential)
___ _____ Check oil cap and dipstick for signs of water. (Oil off-color,
___ _____ brown/grey/white or bubbly)
___ _____ Compression test: (disconnect coil, remove ALL plugs)
___ _____ 1. Dry: 1____ 2____ 3____ 4____
___ _____ 2. Oiled: 1____ 2____ 3____ 4____
___ _____ Plug condition? (OK? Burnt? Oily? Sooty?)
___ _____ 1____ 2____ 3____ 4____
___ _____ Does it restart when warm? Why not?

COMMENTS:

BILL OF SALE (buyer's copy)

Year, make, and model: ____________________________________________

VIN: ______________________________________________________________

Odometer reading: _________________________________________________

Date and time of sale: ____________________ ____________________

Seller hereby acknowledges receipt of $______________ in the form of
_____________ for full and final payment for the above vehicle, which
is sold "AS IS."

I, the seller, certify that I or we are the current owner of this
vehicle, and have the authority to sell it. I hereby transfer full
ownership of this vehicle described on this receipt to the buyer(s). I
certify that the Title or ownership of this vehicle at the time of sale
is subject to no outstanding taxes, fees, liens or encumbrances, other
than those specified on the Title or listed below, if any, and none
other, and that if there are, the seller will be held fully responsible
for their payment.

Buyer(s) hereby acknowledges receipt of the following: the signed
certificate of ownership transferring seller's full ownership of the
vehicle and all of it's contents to the buyer; various maintenance
records; this signed bill of sale and the mileage disclosure statement;
and all keys to the vehicle as well as delivery of the vehicle.

________________________________ ________________________________
(seller 1's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

________________________________ ________________________________
(seller 2's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

Seller: _______________________Buyer: _______________________
address: ______________________address: _______________________
phone: _______________________ phone: _______________________

BILL OF SALE (seller's copy)

Year, make, and model: ____________________________________________

VIN: ______________________________________________________________

Odometer reading: _________________________________________________

Date and time of sale: ____________________ ____________________

Seller hereby acknowledges receipt of $______________ in the form of
______________ for full and final payment for the above vehicle, which
is sold "AS IS".

I, the seller, certify that I or we are the current owner of this
vehicle, and have the authority to sell it. I hereby transfer full
ownership of this vehicle described on this receipt to the buyer(s). I
certify that the Title or ownership of this vehicle at the time of sale
is subject to no outstanding taxes, fees, liens or encumbrances, other
than those specified on the Title or listed below, if any, and none
other, and that if there are, the seller will be held fully responsible
for their payment.

Buyer(s) hereby acknowledges receipt of the following: the signed
certificate of ownership transferring seller's full ownership of the
vehicle and all of it's contents to the buyer; this signed bill of sale
and all keys to the vehicle as well as delivery of the vehicle.

________________________________ ________________________________
(seller 1's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

________________________________ ________________________________
(seller 2's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

Seller: _______________________ Buyer: _______________________
address: _______________________address: _______________________
phone: _______________________ phone: _______________________

ODOMETER (MILEAGE) STATEMENT

(Federal regulations require you to state the odometer mileage upon
transfer of ownership. An inaccurate or untruthful statement may make
you liable for damages to your transferee, for attorney fees, and for
civil or criminal penalties, pursuant to Sections 409, 412, and 413 of
the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act of 1972 (Pub. L.
92-513, as amended by Pub. L. 94-364) and applicable state laws.)

I, the seller __________________________, state that the odometer
mileage on the vehicle described below now reads __________________
miles/kilometers.

Circle ONE only:

(1) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer
reading as stated above reflects the actual mileage of the
vehicle described below.

(2) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer
reading as stated above reflects the amount of mileage in excess
of designed mechanical odometer limit of 99,999 miles/kilometers
of the vehicle described below.

(3) I hereby certify that to the best of my knowledge the odometer
reading as stated above is NOT the actual mileage of vehicle
described below and should not be relied upon.

___________________________ ____________________________ _________
|Make |Model |Body Type

_____________________________ _______________ _____________
|Vehicle Identification No |Year |Dealer Stock No.

Circle ONE only:

(1) I hereby certify that the odometer of said vehicle was not
altered, set back, or disconnected while in my possession,
and I have no knowledge of anyone doing so.

(2) I hereby certify that the odometer was altered for repair or
replacement purposes while in my possession, and that the
mileage registered on the repaired or replacement odometer was
identical to that before such service.

(3) I hereby certify that the repaired or replacement odometer
was incapable of registering the same mileage, that it was
reset to zero, and that the mileage on the original odometer
or the odometer before repair was ________________ miles/kilometers.

________________________________ __________________________________
(seller 1's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

________________________________ __________________________________
(seller 2's signature) (date) (buyer 1's signature) (date)

Seller: Buyer:
phone: phone:
address: address:

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Post by dhoch14 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:18 am

this is awesome.........way to find it hammie.
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Post by Sylvester » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:56 pm

Holy crap! By the time you finish this list, the Bus would have been long sold. I think I had three of those things checked off before I bought my Bus! (It was sight unseen).

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Post by hambone » Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:55 pm

Yeah, I never check all that stuff. Can't imagine doing a compression test on somebody else's car. You go by an overall feeling of the condition of the car. Still, it's good stuff to think about.
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Post by Mark » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:48 pm

Holy poop, that's quite the list. If someone interested in buying a bus from me wanted to go through that list, I'd tell them to pay for the inspection instead. Then again, I have no plans to sell.
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Post by Amskeptic » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:51 pm

That sort of formalizing I think gets in the way of being alert to the presence of the car. Half the stuff on the list I would consider mere nuisances.
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Post by hambone » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:44 am

It's good for a newbie though to read at home and fortify their mind.
I read the Muir book cover to cover before I even had a VW! A lot stuck with me.
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