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RussellK IAC Addict!

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 3187 Location: St Louis, MO
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: Air Flap - 2.0 L |
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I believe it is called the Air Non-return Flap. There are two on each side of the fan housing (or is it blower housing) My guess is they are pretty critical or they wouldn't be there. That said one of them is damaged. Does anyone have a source for replacements? How about a repair? I could make a new one out of a piece of A coil but I don't know if it would work as well as the original. Mine has half the hinge missing maybe make a new hinge and pop rivet it on? JB Weld it?
-Russ _________________ -Russ
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vwlover77 IAC Addict!

Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 2335 Location: North Canton, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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I don't think they are critical to engine cooling. They are only there to keep the heater booster fan from wasting its effort trying to cool the engine instead of blowing through the heater boxes at idle when the output of the main cooling fan is low.
Mine are missing completely, I now know! I hope the extra engine I just picked up from our own Sean Gallagher might have them.
If you can fab something up, it should be fine. _________________ Don
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RussellK IAC Addict!

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 3187 Location: St Louis, MO
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks- That makes sense now that it's explained. I kept wondering why would they need to block air from entering the housing. Never gave the heating a thought. _________________ -Russ
'77 Westy |
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Mark Getting Hooked!

Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 136 Location: Sooke, BC
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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[shameless_plug]I've been working on developing these as reproduction pieces.
They will look, fit, and be constructed as the originals.[/shameless_plug] _________________ '64 Sedan
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RussellK IAC Addict!

Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 3187 Location: St Louis, MO
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Hurry! _________________ -Russ
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tristessa Trusted Air-Cooled Maniac

Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 2914 Location: Uwish Uknew, Oregon
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Mark, cool beans on the reproduction, especially the look-fit-construction bit.
A functional repro isn't hard to make, we had to make one for each side of the fanshroud on Joseph's '77. Used a pizza pan from Dollar Tree and a couple finish nails .. work fine but they look nothing like the originals. _________________ Remember, only YOU can prevent narcissism!
LongCat is loooooooooooooooooong.
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Sylvester Bad Old Puddy Tat.

Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 4811 Location: Sylvester, Georgia
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| tristessa wrote: | | Used a pizza pan from Dollar Tree and a couple finish nails .. work fine but they look nothing like the originals. |
Would be cool if when heated up, it smells like pizza too. _________________ The captain of the Cleveco gave his location then as about fifteen miles off Avon Point, fifteen miles west of Cleveland. He stated that his vessel was in no immediate danger but needed a tug promptly, and that his situation was not good due to the increasing wind and cold. There were ample provisions aboard, and the crew were not suffering, as the donkey boilers were providing ample heat for comfort.
1600cc 126 Industrial "Hun" engine with 2bbl progressive Weber and Pertronix |
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LeeE I'm New!
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 23
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I made these from a cat food can
The picture doesn't show all the bends, but they were easy to make. I used a finishing nail for the pin too. After the photo I tapped them with a rubber mallet to get the dish/contour aound the edges to fit a little better.
Hmmm, hope they don't smell like cat food. |
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VWBusrepairman IAC Addict!

Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 2238 Location: Bloomington, Indiana; Children of the Corn
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I am also running without these small non-return flaps. I would say they are critical at idle when the aux. fan beats the cooling fan, but would say they are negligable when the cooling fan is at 2500 RPM or so. I have a fan with the pieces in place and thought about replacing the entire housing since my current "GE" housing is damaged enough that the flap pin cannot seat. I think the "GD" housing is the one with a good set.
I can see if any of my other shrouds have a nice pair of non-return flaps this weekend and follow up with you. |
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pb24ss Addicted!

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 466 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:41 am Post subject: |
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nice job. here's a pic of the originals for reference
 _________________ 78 P22 Westy |
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Amskeptic IAC "Help Desk"


Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 11533
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have mangled a couple of pie tins to make those things for customers on the itinerary.
Two fabrication notes for you:
Keep the hinges short little ears like the factory did. This keeps the friction down to a bare minimum.
Make sure the hinges fit accurately between the ears of the fan housing hinge pin bosses. The flaps must not be allowed to move sideways too much or they will hang up and stick
Do tap the plates enough to make an impression of the outlet holes. This will help them seal and help them learn to stay centered.
Check that at full-gravity the bottoms of your new flaps are still just above the bottom of the fan housing ducts or they'll hang up.
How many fabrication notes is that?
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pb24ss Addicted!

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 466 Location: sitting around the fire with the bluegrass band - colorado
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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it sounds like you've got it down, Colin. when can we expect your first run of flaps to be available in the classifieds?  _________________ 78 P22 Westy |
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Amskeptic IAC "Help Desk"


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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| pb24ss wrote: | it sounds like you've got it down, Colin. when can we expect your first run of flaps to be available in the classifieds?  |
Help Your Type 4 Engine Put Out Some Heat So You'll Stop Bitchin'!
These nifty little flaps keep the air flowing in the right direction and are perfectly capable of outlasting everything and everyone save for the yahoos who delete them or forget to reinstall them at overhaul time.
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