Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
- drober23
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
Time-sert installation went smoothly!
Now to clean everything, replace the fuel lines, paint the tin, and reassemble.
Now to clean everything, replace the fuel lines, paint the tin, and reassemble.
DJ
'75 Westfalia, '79 Deluxe
(plus more busses than sense)
In a time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
'75 Westfalia, '79 Deluxe
(plus more busses than sense)
In a time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
- Amskeptic
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
It looks good. What method is used to prevent it from backing out if your plug gets a little too stubborn?
. . . which it won't, because YOU are going to make SURE henceforth and always to lubricate the threads.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- asiab3
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
Is there a recommendation for copper vs. silver (nickel?) anti-seize on a copper threaded insert? I also read that using engine oil on the threads can gum up and make removal a little stickier. Do you know of any merit in this?
RobbieThreaded#3
RobbieThreaded#3
1969 bus, "Buddy."
145k miles with me.
322k miles on Earth.
145k miles with me.
322k miles on Earth.
- drober23
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
The time-sert has a few threads at the bottom that have more material left on them than the rest. As you drive the timer-sert in with the special driver tool, you get some resistance toward the end as you force those thicker threads into the threads you made in the aluminum head. Theoretically, this locks the time-sert in place.
I suppose time will tell if this is sufficient.
Not sure about the merits of alternative anti-siezes. Going to use what I have on this one, and every other thing I put back together.
Doing some heat exchanger tin brazing today. Hoping to tighten them up a bit before re-installation. Colin's tale of papers being blown off his dash with the incredible force of his defrost flow has motivated me a little.
I suppose time will tell if this is sufficient.
Not sure about the merits of alternative anti-siezes. Going to use what I have on this one, and every other thing I put back together.
Doing some heat exchanger tin brazing today. Hoping to tighten them up a bit before re-installation. Colin's tale of papers being blown off his dash with the incredible force of his defrost flow has motivated me a little.
DJ
'75 Westfalia, '79 Deluxe
(plus more busses than sense)
In a time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
'75 Westfalia, '79 Deluxe
(plus more busses than sense)
In a time of chimpanzees I was a monkey
- sgkent
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
Robbie - I have always used the silver stuff and under tightened a little because the torque values for plugs are given dry. Some plug manufactures give the tightness by % of a turn when a new washer is used and a small % of turn when a plug is reused. Denso and NGK both say no anti-seize but I have had plugs very hard to take out in aluminum heads, especially VW's, when they are put in dry. Usually a plug takes about 1/2 turn new and 1/12th turn used unless new washers are used. SparkPlug.com used to sell a bag of plug washers for those who wanted to reuse plugs after cleaning them etc. At any rate, I use the silver stuff and tighten about 20% less than the factory spec not to exceed the degrees given (like 1/2 to 3/4 turn new, 1/12th used) In the old days I came close to stripping some plugs following torque guidelines and using anti-seize. Some folks like to chase the threads each time to be sure carbon isn't building up.
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Merlin The Wrench
Merlin The Wrench
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
You got one?
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
Another good anti seize....Milk of Magnesia.
After purchasing a bottle leave it open to allow the liquid carrier to evaporate. Once evaporated use the remaining magnesium to coat the threads. This stuff is amazing.
After purchasing a bottle leave it open to allow the liquid carrier to evaporate. Once evaporated use the remaining magnesium to coat the threads. This stuff is amazing.
1972 Westy tintop
2056cc T-4 - 7.8:1 CR
Weber 40mm Duals - 47.5idles, 125mains, F11 tubes, 190 Air corr., 28mm Vents
96mm AA Biral P/C's w/Hastings rings
42x36mm Heads (AMC- Headflow Masters) w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
Web Cam 73 w/matched Web lifters
S&S 4-1 exhaust w/Walker 17862 quiet-pack
Pertronix SVDA w/Pertronix module & Flamethrower 40K coil (7* initial 28* total @3200+)
NGK BP6ET plugs
002 3 rib trans
Hankook 185R14's
2056cc T-4 - 7.8:1 CR
Weber 40mm Duals - 47.5idles, 125mains, F11 tubes, 190 Air corr., 28mm Vents
96mm AA Biral P/C's w/Hastings rings
42x36mm Heads (AMC- Headflow Masters) w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
Web Cam 73 w/matched Web lifters
S&S 4-1 exhaust w/Walker 17862 quiet-pack
Pertronix SVDA w/Pertronix module & Flamethrower 40K coil (7* initial 28* total @3200+)
NGK BP6ET plugs
002 3 rib trans
Hankook 185R14's
- Amskeptic
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Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
Great idea, how does it hold up under high temperatures? And who buys milk of magnesium for what reason?
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
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- Old School!
- Location: Seattle, WA./HB. Ca./Shizuoka, Japan
- Status: Offline
Re: Stripped-Out Plug - Type 4
We used it in the Navy on jet engines (TF-30) and (F-110). Holds up to heat better than copper anti seize.
1972 Westy tintop
2056cc T-4 - 7.8:1 CR
Weber 40mm Duals - 47.5idles, 125mains, F11 tubes, 190 Air corr., 28mm Vents
96mm AA Biral P/C's w/Hastings rings
42x36mm Heads (AMC- Headflow Masters) w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
Web Cam 73 w/matched Web lifters
S&S 4-1 exhaust w/Walker 17862 quiet-pack
Pertronix SVDA w/Pertronix module & Flamethrower 40K coil (7* initial 28* total @3200+)
NGK BP6ET plugs
002 3 rib trans
Hankook 185R14's
2056cc T-4 - 7.8:1 CR
Weber 40mm Duals - 47.5idles, 125mains, F11 tubes, 190 Air corr., 28mm Vents
96mm AA Biral P/C's w/Hastings rings
42x36mm Heads (AMC- Headflow Masters) w/Porsche swivel adjusters
71mm Stroke
Web Cam 73 w/matched Web lifters
S&S 4-1 exhaust w/Walker 17862 quiet-pack
Pertronix SVDA w/Pertronix module & Flamethrower 40K coil (7* initial 28* total @3200+)
NGK BP6ET plugs
002 3 rib trans
Hankook 185R14's