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Post by tristessa » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:08 pm

Fer g0dz sake man, pick a place and let us know where. Kinzel would be fine with me even if the road is "bad". Twin Springs would be great too. Hell, even just parked in a van by the river sounds fine to me, just hope the ghost of Chris Farley doesn't come by for a visit.

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Post by Gypsie » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:15 pm

Labor day weekend will only allow for the big backcountry. all the close in stuff will be brimming with the 'git 'r done' crowd.
Kinzel lake is a long ride on a "Gruelling" road, but I'll bet we would be the only ones there.
Howzabout a Saturday-Sunday. You guys could stay though I would have to come back Sunday night.
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Post by Gypsie » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:20 pm

Imissed Bob's Twin Springs suggestion on that last post. Could be a good idea but part of the 'safety factor' for lori is multiple vehicles. That was an easy, well travelled road and followed the river and hwy as I recall....Hmmmmm.

I still have to come back sunday night, though.
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Post by Gypsie » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:21 pm

Imissed Bob's Twin Springs suggestion on that last post. Could be a good idea but part of the 'safety factor' for lori is multiple vehicles. That was an easy, well travelled road and followed the river and hwy as I recall....Hmmmmm.

I still have to come back sunday night, though.

Or Monday morning EARLY.
So it all started when I wanted to get better gas mileage....

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Post by hambone » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:37 pm

I'd go to Kinzel if we left Sat. early AM and came back Monday morning that would be worth the trip. I'd also go anyplace closer. It's really up to you guys. It would be cool to camp next to a fish-source. I may also be Eva-free. I may also be able to leave Friday nite but not sure about that.
Jasan you still goin? WhatYA think? Anyone else?
I say Kinzel, What the hell.

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Post by Westy78 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:47 pm

Yep, I'm still in. I'll have to head home Sunday though. Anyone else able to get out Friday afternoon/eve? I'm in anywhere you guys settle on. Fish source a plus though.
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Post by hambone » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:48 pm

COSMIC VIBES I just edited my post to include:
I may also be able to leave Friday nite but not sure about that.
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Post by Westy78 » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:48 pm

Hey Bob, when you say the road is bad into Kinzel, compared to what? I know you thought the Hambone Springs road was bad but that was pretty tame to me.
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Post by hambone » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:54 pm

That's a good question. William Sullivan's book says "punishing and never ending 10 miles". I drove a few miles in a Ford Ranger but it was a long time ago. I'm sure it's like the Badger Lake area, it's pretty close. Probably a 1920's era narrow road with lots of boulders and ruts. As long as someone else is there to bail me out I'll go anywhere! And buses are pretty high clearance.
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Post by Elwood » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:49 pm

Hambone, those are the most fun roads to go on to feel the freedom from others. You got the buddies and thats all ya need for safty. Down here in Socal thats all gone now with all the people and off road yahoos. I was lucky to live in the time with adventure types and explore the desert and mountains in air cooled modules. Just do it! take lots of pictures for posterity. Im in the process now of scanning my old photos for record. Really wish I would have taken more no matter the quality.
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Post by hambone » Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:31 am

Kinzel:
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Squaw:
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Not sure if there's any fish in Kinzel. Pretty sure there are in Squaw.

Also, an interesting writeup on the Abbot Road history:
http://www.trailadvocate.org/stories/storyReader$241
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Post by Gypsie » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:36 am

Kinzel will probly not have many fish (location, location, location).

With Squaw i can say that the road is open and clear and well travelled.

Squaw is sounding better and better...

We could get there by Friaday Dark.\

Friday to early monday morning??????

Hmmmmm???
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Post by hambone » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:16 am

That sounds KEEN. I'll also be Eva-free it turns out. Lots of exploring around Squaw, including a mystery abandoned trail down to the Roaring River that hasn't been travelled since the 70s or so. That would be cool, we'd have camped along all the Abbot campgrounds in one season. Friday nite departure, I get off work at 3:30 so I could even meet you guys up or around there.

From Trailadvocates:

Plaza Creek Trail 506
An abandoned trail leads from the lower end of the unmaintained Twin Springs Campground two miles down to the Roaring River.
Trail very faint after the second stream crossing, disappearing shortly thereafter, about 3/4 mile from the Trailhead.
Not recommended for the average hiker.
This trail needs some friends and some further exploration. Shows on some maps. Dropped from USGS.

Also: http://www.my-usa-data.com/satellite/45 ... orest+Camp

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Salmon-Huckleberry Wilderness

The United States Congress designated the Salmon-Huckleberry Wilderness in 1984 and it now has a total of 44,560 acres. All of the wilderness is in Oregon and is managed by the Forest Service.
Description
The main attraction in this Wilderness, the Salmon River provides excellent habitat for steelhead and chinook and coho salmon. The drainages of the South Fork Salmon River and Eagle Creek stand cloaked in a dense rain forest of Douglas fir, true firs, western red cedar, and western hemlock with a thick understory. Volcanic plugs, pinnacles, and cliffs distinguish the area's sharply dissected ridges.

Much of the water in this area runs off of Huckleberry Mountain in the northern portion. To the south is Salmon Butte, a striking 4,877-foot landmark with a fine view from the top that can be reached by trail. Mule deer and black bears find winter range hidden in the area's wild off-trail country.

The Salmon River National Recreation Trail cuts through more than 12 miles of this Wilderness, part of a trail system that totals about 70 miles. Maps typically imply that this trail parallels the river, but it actually travels several hundred feet above the banks, except for a couple of miles at the lower end of the gorge. At least five trails begin with long climbs and trace ridges with panoramic views, including the Wildcat Mountain Trail (five miles), which is probably the easiest to access.

Although close to the Portland-metro area, and just across the highway from the popular Mt. Hood Wilderness, much of the Salmon-Huckleberry Wilderness has very little use and outstanding opportunities for primitive recreation and solitude, even on weekends.
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Post by Elwood » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:44 pm

Wow what interesting places and history. I wana go too :smilebox:

Elwood is even getting ansy out there after his adventure. Maybe not this trip but when the wine is ready on the Harvest Moon-na- we will just be happy for you folks up in those great places.
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Post by ruckman101 » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:49 pm

Curses you caddish clan of campers, my Labor Day will be spent laboring. Well, mentally laboring anyway, editting video. Tip one back for me.


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