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1977 Bus FI Rebuild

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:55 am
by Sluggo
Can anyone take a look at the pics and let me know what I am missing. I know I need an air cleaner (the PO is still looking for all the FI parts). I have the comp, harness, pump, relay, muffler & cat and they are still attached to the bus.

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Re: 1977 Bus FI Rebuild

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:13 pm
by Amskeptic
Sluggo wrote:Can anyone take a look at the pics and let me know what I am missing.
Pictures aren't going to cut it here. Go to your Bentley. Look at the pictures. See if you have what the Bentley shows. Look at the schematic for 1977. See if all wire terminal ends are accounted for in the harness and the parts that attach to them. Check out the fuel line schematic. See if your parts all make a continguous loop form the tank outlet to the tank inlet. Then ask specific questions. . . :cyclopsani:
Colin

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:36 pm
by Ritter
I'd say you need an auxiliary air regulator to add to your FI confusion.

You'll also need a working egr valve (pull yours to see if it holds vacuum) to get you through smog, egr/throttle body linkage, an egr filter and the tube that connects them. The smog parts can be a bitch to source but, as you know, you'll need to get it all patched together eventually to continue to register it in CA. I've no idea of the smog rules in Oregon though!

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:47 pm
by IFBwax
AS of now, Oregon doesn't care about how your engine gets clean air out the tailpipe so long as it has a Catalytic Converter if it should have one. EGR, FI parts etc.. they don't care or check under the hood.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:15 pm
by bretski
Sluggo, I have a catalytic converter in my parts stash, if you need one.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:49 pm
by vdubyah73
thermo time switch, fuel pressure regulator, unless that is one under the fuel pump and decel valve. Temp sensor II, throttle return spring.

Re: 1977 Bus FI Rebuild

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:03 pm
by Sluggo
Amskeptic wrote:
Sluggo wrote:Can anyone take a look at the pics and let me know what I am missing.
Pictures aren't going to cut it here. Go to your Bentley. Look at the pictures. See if you have what the Bentley shows. Look at the schematic for 1977. See if all wire terminal ends are accounted for in the harness and the parts that attach to them. Check out the fuel line schematic. See if your parts all make a continguous loop form the tank outlet to the tank inlet. Then ask specific questions. . . :cyclopsani:
Colin
DAMN YOU!!! Making me study and learn.

I actually studied the schematic during lunch today. I just wasn't near my New Bus so I couldn't confirm.

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:35 pm
by Sluggo
bretski wrote:Sluggo, I have a catalytic converter in my parts stash, if you need one.
Thanks but I already have one. The cat & smog correct muffler are still attached to the engine/exhaust.

Can I use the Heater boxes from a '72 with the '77 exhaust & cat?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:03 pm
by Amskeptic
Sluggo wrote: Can I use the Heater boxes from a '72 with the '77 exhaust & cat?
Err, nope. That rigamorale under there is to collect all the exhaust in one spot for passage through the cat. To get room for this all-in-one collection, they send the exhaust frontwards out of the manifolds, loop it around through the separate heat exchangers to the croosover and then into the cat. Here, study this:

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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:25 pm
by Sluggo
Amskeptic wrote:
Sluggo wrote: Can I use the Heater boxes from a '72 with the '77 exhaust & cat?
Err, nope. That rigamorale under there is to collect all the exhaust in one spot for passage through the cat. To get room for this all-in-one collection, they send the exhaust frontwards out of the manifolds, loop it around through the separate heat exchangers to the croosover and then into the cat.
I see. I should've just crawled under and taken a look at the exhaust before I asked. I'm replacing it with my engine so I just looked at the cat, muffler and that u pipe to make sure they weren't rusted out.

Please don't tell me the '77 boxes are square port.

Also, do I have to have specific heads for FI?

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:40 pm
by Ritter
Sluggo wrote:
Please don't tell me the '77 boxes are square port.
77 is oval like my 78. Compared to the earlier T4 exhaust, it sucks. Let me know if you need help with the smog equipment. I may have some spares and/or loaner parts.

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:15 am
by Sluggo
Ritter wrote:
Sluggo wrote:
Please don't tell me the '77 boxes are square port.
77 is oval like my 78. Compared to the earlier T4 exhaust, it sucks. Let me know if you need help with the smog equipment. I may have some spares and/or loaner parts.
Good to know. And thanks for the offer. I may have to take you up on that.