Boots: Clamp or No?

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Mulcheese
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Boots: Clamp or No?

Post by Mulcheese » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:11 pm

I am done with the new CV and boots all around. I have one final question to complete the project. Do you clamp/zip tie the boot ends? My Lobro boots came with clamps but I have yet to install them because during Colins last visit he recommended that I take off the pip clamps from the boots that were on the van at the time.

Some people say yes some say no, Why?
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Re: Boots: Clamp or No?

Post by kreemoweet » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:49 pm

Some say no clamps because that is what the Bentley service manual specifies for the later-type boots with the integral metal caps.
I also recall seeing somewhere that clamps are not used on later axles that have two ridges between which the small end of the boot resides, as
opposed to axles with a single ridge. The boots seem quite snug enough to me to keep out bad stuff, and it would seem that restraining
them with a clamp could only increase stress on, and therefore rate of deterioration of, the boot.

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Re: Boots: Clamp or No?

Post by 71whitewesty » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:19 am

I've been going with no clamps lately. I was using zip ties but I just can't see the reason to use anything at all. They are snug and I've never have had a failure at that area. They always seem to fail in the bellows. Just replaced one after 3 years and 27,000 miles, all the other are still fine on that bus.

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Re: Boots: Clamp or No?

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:30 am

71whitewesty wrote:
Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:19 am
I've been going with no clamps lately. I was using zip ties but I just can't see the reason to use anything at all. They are snug and I've never have had a failure at that area. They always seem to fail in the bellows. Just replaced one after 3 years and 27,000 miles, all the other are still fine on that bus.
I use no clamps until the boots have petrified enough to pull the small end out of the channel. That's about 50,000 miles. Then I ziptie and prepare for a repack.
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Re: Boots: Clamp or No?

Post by 72Hardtop » Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:49 pm

No clamps on ends at any time.

Just redid the CV joints on mine and installed Rockford boots (no end clamps) The last time I did them was roughly 20+ years ago. If lubed properly the CV will last a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time so long as the boot holds up.
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