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Heyyyy Sluggooooo???

Post by vdubyah73 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:45 am

Questions for you. I'm rebuilding a 2.0 L this winter. ordering rebuilt new AMC heads from Adrian @ Headflowmasters in a week or so. Anyway you seem to have done what I want to do. Dual IDF's.

Questions:
Is your engine a 2.0?
You're running 44 IDF's right? I was thinking 40 IDF's.
Are yours Webers?
What exhaust? I have '72-'74 heat exchangers and stock muffler now.
If stock, what are your head temps? Any worries about the restrictive nature of the stock exhaust with the air gulping 44's?
What venturies in the 44's?

More questions to follow.

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Post by bottomend » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:10 am

I'm not sluggo but I fantsize about him alot so... I'll answer what I can.

It is a 2.0 engine. I cant remember what size carbs but hes nearly an expert on those sukkas by now so I'm sure he can atleast get you started on the jetting. We used a "c" grind cam from European Motor works.

Exhaust is Stock styled Dansk. It needed a bit of modifacation to fit. Sounds good,looks good but is it affecting head temps? Sluggo? He had the cheapy duel muffler on there at first. Have you noticed any difference with head temps since the switch?

Adrians heads are very good. they arent as developed as the RAT stuff but you shouldn't have issues if the engine is configured ( cam/CR/deck/displacement) correctly for your type of driving in YOUR vehical.

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Post by vdubyah73 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:58 am

I believe he's mentioned 44's. I'm pretty good with 'em too, Have 'em on my 2275 type 1 in a Bounty Hunter buggy. Been running'em for about 6 years now.

The Dansk stock repop is what I have on '72-'74 H.E.'s.

This engine is gonna be a bone stock build.

Adrian was Jakes head guy before H.A.M.

This sukka is being built to travel.

I'm going with the Weber's because I know them so well. I can always make 'em run. I use a 1980 Ford Courier electric fuel pump, readily available at most any Flaps.

Really just concerned about head temps with stock exhaust. May end up with ICT's because of these concerns.

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Post by Amskeptic » Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:23 am

vdubyah73 wrote:
Really just concerned about head temps with stock exhaust.
Stock '72-'74 exchangers with stock muffler is no different in flow rate to the 914. It is a fine system. Breathing issues only come up with higher displacement at higher rpms than the stock 914 which pulled its maximum hp at 4,900 rpm, you plan on hanging out up there?
Colin

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Post by vdubyah73 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:31 am

Not at 4900, but I do run out in the left lane with the big dogs, even now with a beat up valve train and a not so deep knock that is either valve train or cracked head. Thanks Colin, Think I'll go with the 40's. Keep the velocity up for the surface street driving.


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Post by Sluggo » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:10 pm

Questions:
Is your engine a 2.0?
Yep! 1.7 converted to 2.0
You're running 44 IDF's right? I was thinking 40 IDF's.
Are yours Webers?
Weber 44 IDFs. I'd go with 40s if I were you. 44 is what came with my Bus. Jake feels they are too beefy and so do I.
What exhaust? I have '72-'74 heat exchangers and stock muffler now.
Stock setup. Had the crappy EMPI. When I changed to stock the head temps went down about 35*. Jake is really pushing his Econo-Header. I may give it a shot if I can find one for less than $450.
If stock, what are your head temps? Any worries about the restrictive nature of the stock exhaust with the air gulping 44's?
Head temps are about 300 normal driving. 350 - 375 freeway (a little more if I'm trying to pas someone or get somewhere fast)
What venturies in the 44's?
Here's my current jetting:
32 Vents
135 Mains
175 A/C
60 Idle
Floats set at 11mm & 20mm

I'm still working out the jetting. Jake recommendation got me in the ballpark:
MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:44s are a bit healthy for a Bus

This works well

32Vent
130 main
200 air
60 idle
F7

Give that a shot.
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1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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Post by Sluggo » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:14 pm

vdubyah73 wrote: I use a 1980 Ford Courier electric fuel pump, readily available at most any Flaps.
What kind of PSI does it put out?
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1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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Post by vdubyah73 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:39 pm

2 to 4 psi. Been running the same one on my type 1 2275 for about 6 years. First in the bug then the buggy it became. When I rewired my Bus after the po's engine fire I used a new one with 34 ICT's. They were cheap enough 6 years ago about $30 the one for the bus was $70 something. Readily available is the key, no problem getting one when you need it.

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Post by vdubyah73 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:42 pm

I'll go with 40's. Going with 44's I'd have to change vents and e tubes as well as jetting it. Sounds pricey to detune a set of 44's for a 2.0 when 40's would be closer to whats needed.

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Post by Sluggo » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:52 pm

vdubyah73 wrote:2 to 4 psi. Been running the same one on my type 1 2275 for about 6 years. First in the bug then the buggy it became. When I rewired my Bus after the po's engine fire I used a new one with 34 ICT's. They were cheap enough 6 years ago about $30 the one for the bus was $70 something. Readily available is the key, no problem getting one when you need it.

Bill
I went with the Redline Weber pump. Constant 3.5 PSI and it costs about $70.
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1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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Post by Sluggo » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:54 pm

vdubyah73 wrote:I'll go with 40's. Going with 44's I'd have to change vents and e tubes as well as jetting it. Sounds pricey to detune a set of 44's for a 2.0 when 40's would be closer to whats needed.

Bill
I spent about $175 on jetting so far and I'm still not completely right. After the holidays I'll be doing my CIS-E conversion. If I'd have known, I could have spent that and had the FI setup already.
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1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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Post by bottomend » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:32 pm

Been reading the book I loaned you? It seemed like a good idea a month ago ( going to CIS) when I left, right? What kind of stuff have you learned/discovered?

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Post by Sluggo » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:34 pm

bottomend wrote:Been reading the book I loaned you? It seemed like a good idea a month ago ( going to CIS) when I left, right? What kind of stuff have you learned/discovered?
HEY! Merry Christmas!

I started it but haven't got past the intro. Got kind of busy. I still plan on doing the change.
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1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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Post by bottomend » Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:51 pm

Merry Christmas to you sir! (spoken as tiny tim)

You better git readin' son! We gonna have us sum funnin' a'changin' dat foul inducement sistim! ( switched to hill billy)

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