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Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:26 pm
by hambone
Anyone know offhand what the official time is needed for removing/installing a Beetle engine? I'm guessing 2-3 hours for each. Maybe it's less for a shop with a lift.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:43 pm
by airkooledchris
if it's a REALLY good shop, it could take as little as 1 minute and 10 seconds

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:21 pm
by hambone
I was quoted 200-300 locally.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:22 pm
by chitwnvw
My pops told me you used to be able to drop off your beetle and come back an hour later and they'd have your brand new engine installed.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:25 pm
by hambone
We could do it if we had the infrastructure. That would be a unique business, but high overhead. I'll bet it could be successful on the West Coast. But no uncles with deep, generous pockets I'm afraid.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:17 am
by ruckman101
I can get Bertha's engine out in about an hour, if I didn't take so many breaks. In doesn't take that much more. Unexpecteds can add to the time. Three hours, four if you take as many breaks as I do.


neal

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:25 pm
by jalabert
I lived in Hanover as a kid - my dad was in the army there - and there was a VW shop at the end of our road that had a sign outside guaranteeing they'd swap the engine in under an hour...

Old german guys...probably worth their weight in gold these days!

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:27 pm
by hambone
A Beetle takes longer though because ya gotta jack it up so high, and shim up the jackstands. I wonder if you can get taller jackstands??

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:26 am
by dtrumbo
hambone wrote:I wonder if you can get taller jackstands??
Yup. "Stand support height range is 33-3/4" to 44-1/4" "

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Unfortunately, the sellers of these little beauties are quite proud of them.

http://www.tooltopia.com/otc-tools-1779 ... lebase_18u

That price is for one. :cyclopsani:

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:36 am
by hambone
OUCH!
Hey H.F. makes a cheaper set:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-ton-jac ... 34924.html
and
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-ton-jack ... 38847.html

Those 12 tonners are in stock, maybe I'll run over and pick up a set. ATV jacks go on sale next weekend.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:49 am
by dtrumbo
Me thinks those HF offerings don't go high enough. As I recall, you need at least 30" of lift to git 'er done.

The weight capacity isn't the issue, it's the lifting height.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:58 am
by hambone
12 ton may be pretty close:
Height: 19-1/2'' to 30-1/8''
Certainly much more stable, with a larger base as well compared to my 4 tons. A shame the Beetle doesn't have a removable apron from the factory.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:26 pm
by hambone
I got the 12 ton. Man that's a big stand, I feel like Tim Taylor. I'll let you know how they handle with a Beetle.
20% off coupon from the mail! And a free ratchet clamp.

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:19 am
by dtrumbo
Looking back, those might just work. Here's what I ended up having to do with my "high-lift" 3-ton stands which according to Sears have a 21" lift.
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Gotta love a coupon!

Re: Beetle Engine Install - Shop Time

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:02 am
by Sylvester
I don't think I have ever seen anyone put jacks under a Bug to change an engine. Always just a jack. Never seen one fall but hey.