Cylinder Heads -> Lower End -> JCS POS

sped372 · Post by **sped372** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:01 pm

So, what's the consensus? Is it worth the extra $ to go NOS or are rebuilts just as reliable?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=864063

vs.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=862730

I'd rather sink the dough than be dropping the engine sooner. But I don't wanna spend the money if it won't be getting me much further.

Xelmon · Post by **Xelmon** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:59 pm

Hal is the man to ask here...

NOS is nice for sure, and that price actually matches what tristessa was looking at for price over the summer - 250 for a good head, 500 for the pair.

sped372 · Post by **sped372** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:01 pm

I agree, price seems fair for what they are. Just trying to make sure that what they are is what I need!

Post by **Amskeptic** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:31 pm

I bought an emergency AutoLinea head to keep the Squareback moving two years ago. The cooling fins were entirely blocked by flashing from a lousy casting process. The machinist who fixed my OEM German head said the density of the OEM German was far superior to the Brazilian VW and the Brazilian VW was far superior to the AutoLinea.

You can make anything work, depending on your needs. Get the best quality you can find/afford, particularly if it is in a bus application.

A rebuilt OEM German head may have the better metallurgy, but did some machinist screw up the valve guide bores? or grind the seats non-concentric? or slap an exhaust stud in funky? Are the plug threads beat?

I'd pay the new VW Brazilian head price, but get an iron-clad assurance that you have the right of refusal at delivery after a careful inspection.
Colin

sped372 · Post by **sped372** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:31 am

That seller won't agree to a return-if-not-as-described-upon-receipt policy. Guess I'll keep looking. Anybody got any proven sources for single port stuff?

bajaman72 · Post by **bajaman72** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:58 pm

I plan on breakin the bank on the heads im BOTH of my VDubs (Type1 & 4) It seems everywhere I read it's usually a head related issue. I've decided to pay the bucks to send my type 4 heads to Len Hoffman. Although not cheap, I beleive it will definatley be worth it in the long run.

airkooledchris · Post by **airkooledchris** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:49 pm

bajaman72 wrote: type 4 heads to Len Hoffman.

you'll be in good hands

Westy78 · Post by **Westy78** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:11 pm

I'd recommend Len also, but whoever you end up going with, the heads aren't the place to skimp when it comes to your engine.

Some of Len's work.

Post by **Amskeptic** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:57 pm

sped372 wrote:That seller won't agree to a return-if-not-as-described-upon-receipt policy. Guess I'll keep looking. Anybody got any proven sources for single port stuff?

Performance Workshop
9000 Arlington Avenue Suite 111
Riverside CA 92503
(951) 689-7475

Did the original head on my Squareback for $55.00 to replace valve seat.
Did the heads in Oregon72's fresh rebuild.
Did my spare set of 1800 heads.
Does a great deal of high performance Type 1 work.
Personable, not too egotistical, workers appear to respect and get along with him which does not happen at every shop.
Colin

sped372 · Post by **sped372** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:16 am

Maybe I'll give them a call and see what they have to offer. Thanks for the referral.

bajaman72 · Post by **bajaman72** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:41 am

Duuh.. I forgot about Steve! He's even closer to me. Thanks.

midatlanticys · Post by **midatlanticys** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:00 pm

I've also read some positive things about the head work these guys do;
Headflow Masters - Adrian Audirac
2466 #F S. Santa Fe Ave
Vista, CA 92084
760.727.1827 - audirac@att.net
http://vw-offroadmotors.com/main/index.html

werksberg · Post by **werksberg** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:03 pm

I can get brand new type 4 heads...but I don't think you want to know the costs of them!

Post by **Amskeptic** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:13 pm

werksberg wrote:I can get brand new type 4 heads...but I don't think you want to know the costs of them!

Why not? Cough it up. Weez got ways to make you sing like a caNARy.
Vito
Itinerant "Help" Desk

midatlanticys · Post by **midatlanticys** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:33 am

werksberg wrote:...but I don't think you want to know the costs of them!

you mean these?
http://www.remmele-motorsport.com/en/cylheads_rem.html . . . . a mere 3,990 Euros or @ $5,850 plus trans-Atlantic shipping?

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Cylinder Heads -> Lower End -> JCS POS

Cylinder Heads -> Lower End -> JCS POS