Kubelwagen's engine meltdown
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Kubelwagen's engine meltdown
OK, so I'm pretty bummed right now.
Last night, as some of you know, I went out with my daughter to go to the Lab. On start up there was a knocking noise. Foolishly, I guess, I gave the "lifter noise" a chance to go away, and go away it didn't. Let it sit till today.
Changed the oil this afternoon and found a sea of shards of metal shavings - expensive looking metal shavings.
The goal at this point is to drop the engine and begin the process of opening it up and seeing what I'm up against. I've never rebuilt an engine and, to be honest, am sitting here not too sure I'm going to be able to pull this off. But, why not give it a try huh?
Thanks Gypsie, Frank and Guenevere for helping out.
Oh, and Guenevere's bus won't start so it's sitting in the driveway, sort of the extra dose as it were.
Last night, as some of you know, I went out with my daughter to go to the Lab. On start up there was a knocking noise. Foolishly, I guess, I gave the "lifter noise" a chance to go away, and go away it didn't. Let it sit till today.
Changed the oil this afternoon and found a sea of shards of metal shavings - expensive looking metal shavings.
The goal at this point is to drop the engine and begin the process of opening it up and seeing what I'm up against. I've never rebuilt an engine and, to be honest, am sitting here not too sure I'm going to be able to pull this off. But, why not give it a try huh?
Thanks Gypsie, Frank and Guenevere for helping out.
Oh, and Guenevere's bus won't start so it's sitting in the driveway, sort of the extra dose as it were.
Patience the 81 Adventurewagen
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Ohhhh man! That blows! :(
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Oh, Mike. I can sympathize. Makes you want to just heave a big sigh and put your head down on the steering wheel. Maybe shed a tear or three.
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split it ! open it up...go for it ! It will be a challenging and empowering adventure....
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You are on the Itinerary for June 18th. Forensics? Or will you be ready to do the case/crank/rods/pistons/cylinders build-up?Kubelwagen wrote:OK, so I'm pretty bummed right now.
Last night, as some of you know, I went out with my daughter to go to the Lab. On start up there was a knocking noise. Foolishly, I guess, I gave the "lifter noise" a chance to go away, and go away it didn't. Let it sit till today.
Changed the oil this afternoon and found a sea of shards of metal shavings - expensive looking metal shavings.
The goal at this point is to drop the engine and begin the process of opening it up and seeing what I'm up against. I've never rebuilt an engine and, to be honest, am sitting here not too sure I'm going to be able to pull this off. But, why not give it a try huh?
Thanks Gypsie, Frank and Guenevere for helping out.
Oh, and Guenevere's bus won't start so it's sitting in the driveway, sort of the extra dose as it were.
Who is Guenevere?
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
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Guenevere owns a (somewhat battered but sentimental favorite) water cooled 83. The four of us changed the fuel lines (and nothing else) and now it won't start. What the heck is up with that?
Colin - I am on the Itinerary (will send you money ASAP). My goal is to be ready to start building up when you arrive, I'd really like your expertise for that stage the most I think. Here's the plan, for those interested.
This weekend, get the "shop" (such as it is) set up and things in order. Maybe drop the engine and get it into the shop, if not do that early next week.
Westyfrank has an engine bought as a spare that we have been meaning to rebuild. The plan is to split both of them apart and see which can be rebuilt most quickly. We'll get a parts list together and start getting it ready.
Rebuild engine 1 - hopefully with Colin arriving just in time for me to get the most out of his expertise.
Get engine 1 back in my van and get on the road. Go camping (dammit)
Rebuild engine 2 with WestyFrank so he can replace the rather tired one in his bus.
Complications:
1) Maupin. No VW at Maupin makes for sad kids (and me) but we'll be doing the drive of shame in the Mazda. I've been cooking up all sorts of mad schemes to try to get there with a VW, but they seem tenuous at best.
2) There is a possible parts van that entered the picture this morning. The engine runs (and has been driving) but is of unknown robustness. I *may* pick that up and drop the unknown engine in so that I can keep getting around town at least. Kind of concerned that I'd end up eating up too much time (and money) and not be ready for Colin's visit. Also, parts van storage is a pain. I could, in theory at least, get some money back on that venture. Anybody have a barn I can use for awhile?
Colin - I am on the Itinerary (will send you money ASAP). My goal is to be ready to start building up when you arrive, I'd really like your expertise for that stage the most I think. Here's the plan, for those interested.
This weekend, get the "shop" (such as it is) set up and things in order. Maybe drop the engine and get it into the shop, if not do that early next week.
Westyfrank has an engine bought as a spare that we have been meaning to rebuild. The plan is to split both of them apart and see which can be rebuilt most quickly. We'll get a parts list together and start getting it ready.
Rebuild engine 1 - hopefully with Colin arriving just in time for me to get the most out of his expertise.
Get engine 1 back in my van and get on the road. Go camping (dammit)
Rebuild engine 2 with WestyFrank so he can replace the rather tired one in his bus.
Complications:
1) Maupin. No VW at Maupin makes for sad kids (and me) but we'll be doing the drive of shame in the Mazda. I've been cooking up all sorts of mad schemes to try to get there with a VW, but they seem tenuous at best.
2) There is a possible parts van that entered the picture this morning. The engine runs (and has been driving) but is of unknown robustness. I *may* pick that up and drop the unknown engine in so that I can keep getting around town at least. Kind of concerned that I'd end up eating up too much time (and money) and not be ready for Colin's visit. Also, parts van storage is a pain. I could, in theory at least, get some money back on that venture. Anybody have a barn I can use for awhile?
Patience the 81 Adventurewagen
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Come to Maupin in whatever gets you there as there is no shame in having your bus engine go south on you.
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Yes - we *will* be at Maupin one way or another.
So, Guenevere is back on the road. Best of all, she was the one who figured it out. Temp sensor is faulty. Cleaned and plugged in back in and the van started right up. Took some fiddling with the connector to get it to stay running, but a little handyman's helper and it at least got her home. These water cooled engines are strange to me. :)
Leaning towards getting the offered parts van and putting the running engine in my rig to get me around while I do my rebuild.
So, Guenevere is back on the road. Best of all, she was the one who figured it out. Temp sensor is faulty. Cleaned and plugged in back in and the van started right up. Took some fiddling with the connector to get it to stay running, but a little handyman's helper and it at least got her home. These water cooled engines are strange to me. :)
Leaning towards getting the offered parts van and putting the running engine in my rig to get me around while I do my rebuild.
Patience the 81 Adventurewagen
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Good for her.Kubelwagen wrote:Guenevere is back on the road. Best of all, she was the one who figured it out.
Leaning towards getting the offered parts van and putting the running engine in my rig to get me around while I do my rebuild.
Part of the Volkswagen Experience is being creative, asking a forlorn used engine if it might like another chance at some road time. You might find out that it really likes road time.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
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Getting stuff together. Anybody have a parts cleaner they would be willing to loan me? I can provide beer!
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I am finally getting up to date on here. I am starting to get back into the swing of things. Sad to have to see my vanagon become a donor, but very glad to see it go where it's needed with the possibilty of rehabilitation itself eventually.
Would very much like to sit in/help/point at things and nod while holding a beer on some of the engine swap/rebuild sessions. There is much to be gleaned from this experience, I'd like to think of it as a positive and learning one.
Would very much like to sit in/help/point at things and nod while holding a beer on some of the engine swap/rebuild sessions. There is much to be gleaned from this experience, I'd like to think of it as a positive and learning one.
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Plans are coming together. I am going to buy mamasunshine's Vanagon on Monday and have it towed to Mentalqtip's place. Weather and time permitting even drop the engine and transfer it to my place. Then Tuesday/Wednesday will be the big engine swap and get my van back on the road.
Once I am rolling it is engine tear down time, do some forensics and get the parts I'm going to need ordered. Relevant components to the machine shop, etc.
I started out overwhelmed by this, but am now humbled and overwhelmed by the support I've got from so many- thanks folks!
Once I am rolling it is engine tear down time, do some forensics and get the parts I'm going to need ordered. Relevant components to the machine shop, etc.
I started out overwhelmed by this, but am now humbled and overwhelmed by the support I've got from so many- thanks folks!
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Plan for this evening, starting around 5. Pull the disabled engine out of my bus and get it into the shop so I can start the tear down.
Still looking for a parts cleaner and, possibly, an engine stand, but things are coming together.
Mike
Still looking for a parts cleaner and, possibly, an engine stand, but things are coming together.
Mike
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Engine is out! Thanks Gypsie, Mentalqtip, Xelmon, Marcus and Penn (for the beer fund contribution).
Tomorrow and Thursday is teardown and forensics.
Mike, you up for splitting the case?
Tomorrow and Thursday is teardown and forensics.
Mike, you up for splitting the case?
Patience the 81 Adventurewagen
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What time Wednesday?Kubelwagen wrote:Tomorrow and Thursday is teardown and forensics.
Mike, you up for splitting the case?
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