trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels on

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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by sped372 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:22 am

I think you forgot a metric-to-imperial factor in there someplace. Otherwise it looks right to me.
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by Boxcar » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:15 pm

Did not some of Mr Benz'es wheels have the 5x112 bc, and amenable offset?From the wagon?
Not a huge esthetic transgression, but I never learned of the fit..
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by Amskeptic » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:27 am

Boxcar wrote:Did not some of Mr Benz'es wheels have the 5x112 bc, and amenable offset?
From the wagon?
Not a huge aesthetic transgression, but I never learned of the fit..
Yes, some Mercedes wheels fit . . . a small devastating aesthetic transgression.
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by airkooledchris » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:06 pm

What does look good from the Mercedes wheel lineup is the steel 16's that some of the Vanagon guys run
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Post by Amskeptic » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:25 pm

airkooledchris wrote:What does look good from the Mercedes wheel lineup is the steel 16's that some of the Vanagon guys run
Pictures or you are lying.
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Post by Boxcar » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:04 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
airkooledchris wrote:What does look good from the Mercedes wheel lineup is the steel 16's that some of the Vanagon guys run
Pictures or you are lying.
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But still yes,? any pics?

As an exercise in moderate aesthetic transgression.

A summer wheelset.Steel is real.
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by airkooledchris » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:23 pm

16 x 7 steel wheels from a ~2000 Mercedes Benz C240
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Spacers are required to run these 16's though.


The merc steel wheels you can just run without any effort is actually a 15 inch by 6.5, seen here:
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These 15's are Mercedes part number 2024000102. These came on the C-Class cars from '94-'98. These should be a bolt on front and rear. The front's might get a little tight depending on how wide of a tire you choose. A 5-7mm spacer would cure that though.


With a baywindow bus, id lean towards running the 15 inch and not the 16, as the extra sidewall does help absorb some of the bumps along the way. The 16's might be a little too jarring on our declining roads with the shorter sidewall.
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by Amskeptic » Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:13 pm

airkooledchris wrote: These 15's are Mercedes part number 2024000102 C-Class cars from '94-'98. The front's might get a little tight depending on how wide of a tire you choose. A 5-7mm spacer would cure that though.


With a baywindow bus, id lean towards running the 15 inch and not the 16, as the extra sidewall does help absorb some of the bumps along the way. The 16's might be a little too jarring on our declining roads with the shorter sidewall.
Well thank-you, Chris. Now, I need to figure out how to graft on stock hubcaps.
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Post by airkooledchris » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:32 pm

Surely it would be easier with the wide 5 style as you could weld on those little tabs that hold the caps in place. Perhaps an option also on bays with creative welding work
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Post by asiab3 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:18 am

airkooledchris wrote:Surely it would be easier with the wide 5 style as you could weld on those little tabs that hold the caps in place. Perhaps an option also on bays with creative welding work
I suspect you could weld those tabs on any rims to get either style of bay bus hubcaps to fit. We don't want to drill/rivet in to rims, right? :study:
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Post by Amskeptic » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:31 pm

airkooledchris wrote:Surely it would be easier with the wide 5 style as you could weld on those little tabs that hold the caps in place. Perhaps an option also on bays with creative welding work
Mercedes wheels are only an option for the late bays . . . therefore, the flat hubcaps only.

There has to be a way, maybe utilizing spring wire and hooks that fit the removal holes on the hubcaps?
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by weisswurst » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:21 pm

Oh man! I'm trying to do this grafting welding thing right now to a 2000 diesel new beetle stock steelies that came attached to a bug I bought for my wife for Christmas!
I'm riveted (literally) to this idea Colin said of stock VW hubcaps on modern rims! Good thing to do on my 2015 appt with the wandering one maybe???
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Post by Amskeptic » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:45 pm

weisswurst wrote:Oh man! I'm trying to do this grafting welding thing right now to a 2000 diesel new beetle stock steelies that came attached to a bug I bought for my wife for Christmas!
I'm riveted (literally) to this idea Colin said of stock VW hubcaps on modern rims! Good thing to do on my 2015 appt with the wandering one maybe???
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by Boxcar » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:25 pm

The 5 x 112 b/c pattern happens on Rabbit and Jetta. I just saw 4 on CL, 15", steel.
(Though the front wheel drive have a offset way different from bus.)

Anyone care to confirm my suspicions of non fit? Or what offset IS stock for late Bay?
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Re: trials and tribulations of putting non-stock bus wheels

Post by Boxcar » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:40 pm

airkooledchris wrote: 16 x 7 steel wheels from a ~2000 Mercedes Benz C240
Spacers are required to run these 16's though.

The merc steel wheels you can just run without any effort is actually a 15 inch by 6.5, seen here:
Image

These 15's are Mercedes part number 2024000102. These came on the C-Class cars from '94-'98. These should be a bolt on front and rear. The front's might get a little tight depending on how wide of a tire you choose. A 5-7mm spacer would cure that though.


With a baywindow bus, I'd lean towards running the 15 inch and not the 16, as the extra sidewall does help absorb some of the bumps along the way. The 16's might be a little too jarring on our declining roads with the shorter sidewall.
Why thanks for this.Aircooled Chris!

Part# and everything.

Much easier than guessing about clearances of rear castle nut and front grease cap, cl offset which is 39mm from centerline of rim..sheesh, way too much complexity.
Lured by the familiar porsche,audi,vw 5x112 b/c shopping gets quickly too.complicated for reward.
Stock steel with fresh snows are all I needs.
Meanwhile, those 15"steel M benz wheels do offer some tire choice in the 15"range.. time to shop before summer.//Eric in NJ
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