'73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

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'73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Mon May 01, 2017 7:57 am

Hi all,

I have a '73 bus that recently developed a crunching noise when the suspension travel is more extreme. I'm going to lube the front beam tonight to see if that resolves, but wanted to reach out here to see if anyone had any suggestions.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by asiab3 » Mon May 01, 2017 9:27 am

Hi there, and welcome to IAC!

I'll start with the obvious and easiest questions first, then we can go deeper if needed. What size tires do you have? All stock brakes and rims too? Rubbing tires can sound like a crunch or a whir, depending on tread pattern. Any sign of rubber on your wheel wells/frame?

Does it happen more or less when the wheels are turned or straight?

Good call on lubing the beam; make sure both front wheels are off the ground, and don't forget the center pin zerk.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Mon May 01, 2017 11:09 am

Same tires for years and this sound just started recently. All stock brakes and rims. Will check for rubber on wheel wells/frame. Definitely happens when the wheels are straight, can't recall if turned. Going to crawl underneath tonight with a light and perform a comprehensive review and report back.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Mon May 01, 2017 6:34 pm

Update:

Lubed up the front beam and I would say we have a 50% improvement. Crunch/Creak is still there for certain road undulations that cause major front suspension movements, but overall improvement. Gave each zerk about 30 strokes of grease and got great gobs of the old stuff flowing out.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Mon May 01, 2017 6:35 pm

And, no signs of abnormal tire rubbing.

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Post by hambone » Tue May 02, 2017 4:35 pm

Keep pumping the grease gun until clean new grease comes out.
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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by sgkent » Wed May 03, 2017 12:08 pm

what hambone said. Also use rubber lube on the shock bushings, sway bar bushings, and damper bushings. Check closely for any cracks on the beam uprights. If it continues you may need to pull the leaves and clean them. I had some flakes of rust get into the leaves on my 1971 and it made noises - I had to pull, clean and reinstall the leaves. Dry rubber bushings can do it too. Oh - and don't forget to check the lug nuts.
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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Thu May 04, 2017 10:45 am

All great suggestions. I shall do and report back.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by Amskeptic » Fri May 05, 2017 7:44 am

a3inverter wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 10:45 am
All great suggestions. I shall do and report back.
I was going to say, remove shock absorbers and test drive.
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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by a3inverter » Wed May 17, 2017 6:40 pm

Following up....

The noise has simply gone away for now. I'll lube the shock mounts just to be sure, but no more noise.

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Re: '73 Bus - Suspension "Crunch" Noise

Post by Amskeptic » Sun May 21, 2017 6:55 am

a3inverter wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 6:40 pm
Following up....

The noise has simply gone away for now. I'll lube the shock mounts just to be sure, but no more noise.
I was gonna say, "don't lubricate rubber." Rubber is supposed to bent internally, not slide ever. Lube quiets down the sliding that should not be occurring. Sliding causes rapid wear. All suspension and shock bushings are to have no moving. Once movement (noise like graunching or squeaking) begins to occur (usually from tightening them down when the car is NOT at proper ride height) the interference fit is damaged.
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