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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by Amskeptic » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:19 pm

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hippiewannabe wrote:Colin said I should use ATE brand brake hoses for the front end of my Westy; does anyone know who sells them?
http://www.germansupply.com/

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281 611 775 B
Rubber brake hose '71-'79 Bus Front

"out of stock"

Use Italian or whatever if you have to, ATE was a hopeful wish that has apparently dried up. They do have rear German ATE rubber lines . . .
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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by hambone » Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:39 pm

New front rubber brake lines are missing the foamy sleeve, wtf? Bah again.
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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by Amskeptic » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:21 pm

hambone wrote:New front rubber brake lines are missing the foamy sleeve, wtf? Bah again.
Are they?

Mofoco (disk brakes)

# 281-611-775B

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JBug or Mid-America (drum brakes)

# 211-611-703

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BobD - 1978 Bus . . . . . . . . . . .111,130 miles
Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 91 414 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . 55,510 miles
Alexus - 1991 Lexus LS400 . . . 72,113 miles

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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by hambone » Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:47 pm

They are missing on Italian hoses, COFLE I forgot the name...
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Post by whc03grady » Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:52 am

Do we have an opinion on Varga master cylinders? The brake lines come into the wrong side of the Ate I bought. (Unfortunately I discovered this after removing the old. Lesson learned: compare new and old in situ if you can.)
I found a new Varga with the servo for significantly less than new Ate.
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Post by kreemoweet » Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:22 pm

whc03grady wrote:Do we have an opinion on Varga master cylinders?
I ran one for about 3 years (on '71 bus with '78 brakes): it worked just dandy. I replaced it with an ATE (just because I could), and it is now
my backup M/C. There are some minor internal differences from the ATE, one of which is the lack of a drain/vent
passage between the two seals on the front piston. This means a slow leak developed there will start filling
up your booster with fluid, rather than dribbling out and down the servo exterior, to inform you of the situation.

Current production might be different, as also seems to be the case with ATE master cylinders.

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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:55 pm

whc03grady wrote:
Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:52 am
Do we have an opinion on Varga master cylinders? The brake lines come into the wrong side of the Ate I bought. (Unfortunately I discovered this after removing the old. Lesson learned: compare new and old in situ if you can.)
I found a new Varga with the servo for significantly less than new Ate.

Did you get a new ATE from a reputable vendor, or is this a casual-assurances-offered Ebay type of purchase?
I do not understand how the brake lines can come in on the wrong side.
If you have booster mounting flange holes horizontal and facing forward towards the front bumper, then viewed from the rear of the vehicle, you have brake switches on right angled downward, reservoir grommets facing straight up, brake lines sticking straight out on left. Did you get a righthand drive master cylinder or something?
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BobD - 1978 Bus . . . . . . . . . . .111,130 miles
Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 91 414 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . 55,510 miles
Alexus - 1991 Lexus LS400 . . . 72,113 miles

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Post by Jivermo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:05 pm

I recently bought a new ATE from BD, and it fit perfectly. And is performing as it needs to. I still would love to get a rebuild kit for the unit I removed. The only thing wrong are the rubber cups. I hate the idea of trashing it, so I’m not.

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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by Amskeptic » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:58 am

Jivermo wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:05 pm
I recently bought a new ATE from BD, and it fit perfectly. And is performing as it needs to. I still would love to get a rebuild kit for the unit I removed. The only thing wrong are the rubber cups. I hate the idea of trashing it, so I’m not.
I want to experiment with flame-melting the lips with a splash of Bic lighter and seeing if that restores the sealing properties. I have an experimental wheel cylinder for this test.
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BobD - 1978 Bus . . . . . . . . . . .111,130 miles
Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 91 414 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . 55,510 miles
Alexus - 1991 Lexus LS400 . . . 72,113 miles

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Re: Parts: Known To Be Good

Post by whc03grady » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:40 am

Amskeptic wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:55 pm
Did you get a new ATE from a reputable vendor, or is this a casual-assurances-offered Ebay type of purchase?
I do not understand how the brake lines can come in on the wrong side.
If you have booster mounting flange holes horizontal and facing forward towards the front bumper, then viewed from the rear of the vehicle, you have brake switches on right angled downward, reservoir grommets facing straight up, brake lines sticking straight out on left. Did you get a righthand drive master cylinder or something?
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I must've. That'll teach me to compare new and old before removing old. Or better yet, before purchase. And what's a reputable vendor, anyway? Does anyone come through across the board?

It came off the Samba for about $115. He took the return without complaint, so far.

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Ludwig--1974 Westfalia, 2.0L (GD035193), Solex 34PDSIT-2/3 carburetors.
Gertie--1971 Squareback, 1600cc with Bosch D-Jetronic fuel injection from a '72 (E brain).
Read about their adventures:
http://www.ludwigandgertie.blogspot.com

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