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Here's a new one, at least for me.

Post by ruckman101 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:04 pm

So I did notice what looked to be metal shavings all about the transmission bell housing and pressure plate when I pulled the recently demised engine out of Bertha Bus, but a finger rubbed across the surface found no metal bits. Just dinged up.


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Obviously I had other things on my mind, and didn't really think much more of it. But then I noticed that one of the springs you can see on the pressure plate above, had come off it's arm so that the contact surface for the throwout bearing was only pressured at two of the three points of this pressure plate. Well that's not good. Hmmphh. Doesn't go back on easy, either. It's still off.

So this past Saturday I began the task of pulling the transmission out. Took it into a rebuilder Monday. And again I immediately marveled at the patina of what appeared to be metal shavings, but weren't. Just dings.

And then I noticed the throw out bearing itself. Can you spot the issue?


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In the interest of learning and all. And driving this engine, two years or so, I had no idea, never noticed anything.



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Post by Amskeptic » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:22 am

ruckman101 wrote:So I did notice.
And then I noticed the throw out bearing itself. Can you spot the issue?
I can only assume . . . that the release bearing retaining clips were blowing around in there. With a decent clutch free play adjustment, the saddles would have held the release bearing in position against the pressure plate until you removed the engine. Man . . .
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Post by ruckman101 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:37 pm

Ayep. Found a couple chunks of the retaining pins up near the starter. Perhaps I hooked up those retaining clips incorrectly, and failed by failing to notice the loose spring on the pressure plate. Sheesh.


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Post by Spezialist » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:32 am

Sorry to hear your bad news.
My friend just bought a bus that had a 2 year old "new engine"
Long story short, the previous owner hunted for a problem that he never found, caused more problems in the process.
But you know what? That bus ran down the road pretty good.
My friend got a deal on it, because it had a "blown" head.
What it had was,
No first gear because shifter hasn't been lubed in 35 years
One good cylinder tin on 3:4 side, all other tin gone or ratty.
Bad exhaust
Cracked heads, one blown spark plug
CAMSHAFT GEAR LOOSE was the real culprit for two years.

I write this because I have nowhere else to vent this.
I watched the ad for this bus evolve for a year and tried to talk to the guy and help him.
Some people just can't look beyond the messenger and look at the problem.
Yea, a good mechanic cost money, and in the most expensive place in the USA to live, you can bet a mechanic is comparable.

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Post by Amskeptic » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:44 pm

Spezialist wrote:Sorry to hear your bad news.
My friend just bought a bus that had a 2 year old "new engine"
Long story short, the previous owner hunted for a problem that he never found, caused more problems in the process.
But you know what? That bus ran down the road pretty good.
My friend got a deal on it, because it had a "blown" head.
What it had was,
No first gear because shifter hasn't been lubed in 35 years
One good cylinder tin on 3:4 side, all other tin gone or ratty.
Bad exhaust
Cracked heads, one blown spark plug
CAMSHAFT GEAR LOOSE was the real culprit for two years.

I write this because I have nowhere else to vent this.
I watched the ad for this bus evolve for a year and tried to talk to the guy and help him.
Some people just can't look beyond the messenger and look at the problem.
Yea, a good mechanic cost money, and in the most expensive place in the USA to live, you can bet a mechanic is comparable.
Share your high standards far and wide, and hold those you contract with to them.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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