My Fourth Engine Build

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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by ruckman101 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:25 pm

Gorgeous day up here on Dunnigan Mountain. A peanut gallery is always welcome. You could give me feedback on my third brew.

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Post by ruckman101 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:21 pm

"Don't over-think this," sez Colin.

'Tis my nature, especially striving to get everything just exactly perfect. So I'm back to the longer spring for the oil pressure relief valve. This is a dual relief case, which began '70/'71, which Bentley specs as higher pressure at load height of 12.3 to 16.0 lbs at 1 3/4", v 5.5 to 9.2 lbs at 1 11/16". Paired with a slightly stiffer pressure control spring.


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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by ruckman101 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:49 pm

Woo-hoo! Got the case together today. Everything seems dandy. Tight, but smooth.


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Post by Amskeptic » Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:50 am

ruckman101 wrote:Woo-hoo! Got the case together today. Everything seems dandy. Tight, but smooth.


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Congratulations. Define "tight" but smooth . . . . Hey, retorque every case bolt after a couple of days, just a good thing to do.
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Post by ruckman101 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:48 pm

Takes some effort the turn it, but consistent all the way, no catching, lurching, variance. And yes, will be retorquing.

Major annoyance today. Thought I had an oil pump but the backlash is terrible and one gear is taller than the other, and a good .008 gap between them and the cover plate. Out of the five, the best one in terms of backlash is for a case with 8mm oil galleys. Found a decent one, but the gears are only 21 mm, not the 26 mm I thought I had. And confusion. No mention of gears that dimension. 19 and 24 mm.

Dang it. Still waiting on the heads.


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Post by Amskeptic » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:34 am

ruckman101 wrote: Takes some effort the turn it, but consistent all the way, no catching, lurching, variance. And yes, will be retorquing.

Major annoyance today. Thought I had an oil pump but the backlash is terrible and one gear is taller than the other, and a good .008 gap between them and the cover plate. Out of the five, the best one in terms of backlash is for a case with 8mm oil galleys. Found a decent one, but the gears are only 21 mm, not the 26 mm I thought I had. And confusion. No mention of gears that dimension. 19 and 24 mm.
Dang it. Still waiting on the heads.
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Welcome to the maddeningly incremential development of air-cooled Volkswagens . . .
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BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by ruckman101 » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:01 pm

Well life happens and not much to update. Bon Ami scoured my jugs after the tedium of filing out casting slag. Much tougher stuff than the same task on heads.

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There is still a nasty wide huge bit of slag I gave up on. About a one and a half or two mm aberration from concept, but about half an inch across. So a compromise. Hopefully minor.

A couple photos to catch up some. Bottom bottom end finally coupled.

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At the kitchen table chasing used hardware thread with tap and die.

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I have no clue, but this was there on my p/c set.

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Here's the drive gear to the oil pump I didn't use after checking it for tolerance between gear and cover plate and gear lash. Failed on both accounts.

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Today the new oil pump begged for longer studs to mount. Made sure they weren't so long the mustache bar would be compromised.

Heads are out of the shop. Further.



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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by Amskeptic » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:54 am

ruckman101 wrote:Well life happens and not much to update.

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Hit the cylinder barrel casting flash with a dremel cutting wheel.

Oil pump drive gear is a press fit on the shaft. You can set distance to bottom of oil pump cavity. You can then file the oil pump body down on the outside a tad to get your gear-to-cover allowance within spec. You can also file the cover plate to get rid of any scores. Excessive lash is the only thing that I cannot compensate for. Definitely get the oil pump studs short as possible to just stick out past the nuts, Those studs can mess up the crank pulley tin, then all hell breaks loose when you start the engine and hear the pulley rubbing against the tin. I gots that tee shirt.
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BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by vistacruzer » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:42 am

sanding the oil pump wet/dry on a sheet of glass.
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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by ruckman101 » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:38 am

Fins are too tall for the dremel at that spot. New pump specs out.


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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by vistacruzer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:35 pm

I used a sawzall with a long blade to clear the fins on my heads :sunny:
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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by hambone » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:13 pm

Oh Colin shame on you.
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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:35 pm

hambone wrote:Oh Colin shame on you.
You don't even know . . .
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(bashing that b*tch with a 2X4 destroying my pretty paint job because I hadn't noted the oil pump studs . . . shame is too good a word to waste on my dumb-b-b-ba$$)
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by ruckman101 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:55 am

Ok, the oil pump studs may be a tad long. They touch the tin. I'm loath to pull the pump, but will grind/cut them back a touch. Wanted to be sure to have enough thread for the nuts, and patted myself on the back for replacing the original studs with longer ones rather than backing out the ones there enough. The longer ones set deeper into the case than the shorter ones even in their original position.


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Re: My Fourth Engine Build

Post by hambone » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:08 am

I went thru that too with a customer's engine, oops. Just threaded the studs in further, but you may not be able to..
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http://pdxvolksfolks.blogspot.com
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