Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:06 pm

glasseye wrote:By all means, whatever we do, let's turn an apocalyptic tragedy into a political football. :cheers:
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Amskeptic wrote:How many people will be left on this forum if I drop the hammer? I am ready.
and how many more would be willing to participate afterward?

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Amskeptic wrote:How many people will be left on this forum if I drop the hammer? I am ready.
and how many more would be willing to participate afterward?
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Post by Westy78 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:27 pm

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glasseye wrote:By all means, whatever we do, let's turn an apocalyptic tragedy into a political football. :cheers:
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knee capping doesn't seem to benefit.

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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by Amskeptic » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:47 pm

Westy78 wrote:
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glasseye wrote:By all means, whatever we do, let's turn an apocalyptic tragedy into a political football. :cheers:
I am disgusted by the trite bickering. How many people will be left on this forum if I drop the hammer? I am ready.
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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

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Amskeptic wrote:How many people will be left on this forum if I drop the hammer? I am ready.
and how many more would be willing to participate afterward?
Let this conundrum mull in your mind as if you were administrator...

Would you let the science museum exhibit be overrun by two rowdy teenagers because they improve the visitor count? Is the quantity as important as the quality? Would others, who find these three word stuck-in-a-rut tit-for-tat exchanges tedious, then desert the place after the teenagers were removed or would they perhaps fill in to participate themselves?

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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by sped372 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:47 pm

I find myself steering clear of most of the discussions because I'm sure they'll just swirl down the proverbial drain.
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Post by hambone » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:48 pm

Does nuclear power really have a place? Is it really safe? Is it a good idea to build something so dangerous on the back of a sleeping dinosaur?
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Post by turk » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:11 pm

Let's suppose it was a solar plant on the coast there. The tsunami comes and sweeps tons of toxic chemicals in all those panels and batteries into the sea poisoning the ecosystem. What is safe? That's a 40 year old nuclear plant. There's risks in all energy, and all human activity, period.
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Post by sped372 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:13 pm

There's something inherently scary to me in a technology with a failure mode that is runaway catastrophe. Most things slow down or end themselves when they break, not speed up to an uncontrollable state.
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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by airkooledchris » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:37 pm

Amskeptic wrote:Let this conundrum mull in your mind as if you were administrator...

Would you let the science museum exhibit be overrun by two rowdy teenagers because they improve the visitor count?
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Amskeptic wrote:Is the quantity as important as the quality?


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Amskeptic wrote:Would others, who find these three word stuck-in-a-rut tit-for-tat exchanges tedious, then desert the place after the teenagers were removed or would they perhaps fill in to participate themselves?
Is either of these a negative outcome? Ideally more would participate, but it's anyone's guess as to what the reality would be.
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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by airkooledchris » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:42 pm

sped372 wrote:There's something inherently scary to me in a technology with a failure mode that is runaway catastrophe. Most things slow down or end themselves when they break, not speed up to an uncontrollable state.

since the plant itself survived an earthquake well past what it was designed for, im sure all future plants and upgrades to existing plants in tsunami prone area's will mandate a solution to this problem.

there's no reason to completely abandon the technology now, so long as we learn from our mistakes along the way.
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Post by Westy78 » Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:59 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
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Amskeptic wrote:
glasseye wrote:By all means, whatever we do, let's turn an apocalyptic tragedy into a political football. :cheers:
I am disgusted by the trite bickering. How many people will be left on this forum if I drop the hammer? I am ready.
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Re: Power Plant Melt Down Obama's Fault?

Post by turk » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:58 pm

airkooledchris wrote:
sped372 wrote:There's something inherently scary to me in a technology with a failure mode that is runaway catastrophe. Most things slow down or end themselves when they break, not speed up to an uncontrollable state.

since the plant itself survived an earthquake well past what it was designed for, im sure all future plants and upgrades to existing plants in tsunami prone area's will mandate a solution to this problem.

there's no reason to completely abandon the technology now, so long as we learn from our mistakes along the way.
The grunts on the ground are heroes, risking their lives and health in a totally devastated scene in chaos, trying to prevent more catastrophe. I must give admiration to all the people in Japan for handling this so civilly thus far. I did read somewhere they (Japan's government) initially turned down the Whitehouse offer to fly in generators. I dunno if that's true, but good on the Whitehouse for that initiative early on. This will be a learning experience no doubt.
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