Taking an "Ethics Test" to get a job!?!?

[Sluggo]

Looked it up. Totally legal unless the questions are personal.
Here's a link to the site of the company that conducted mine.
http://www.chartcourse.com/ttiassessments_prehire.html
RIDICULOUS!

[Sluggo]

A lot of questions force you to be dishonest.

T/F
"I have never said anything out of anger that I later regretted". Who Hasn't?
"I have stolen a pen from an office or business". Who Hasn't?
"At one time or another I have drank more alcohol than I probably should have". WHO HASN'T???

You have to lie or you will fail! Or will they fail you for lying because everyone has done these things?

[Westy78]

Can't imagine why the unemployment rate is still in the double digits.

Pulling credit reports for hiring is complete crap too.

[Sluggo]

Pulling credit reports for hiring is complete crap too.

It is! Somehow I always pass that part. Criminal background is the only one I really agree with. But not completely. I had a friend who was denied a job a few months ago because he received a pair of stolen sunglasses 18 years ago. The guy who stole them stole a lot of them so the total value of all (not just my friends one pair) made it a felony.

What pisses me off about the drug tests is that If I'm doing heavy drugs like meth or heroin it's out of my system in a few days. Take a few hits off the pipe and it's in there for at least 30 days. Alcoholism is okie dokie apparently. I'd rather hire someone who smokes after work than an alcoholic junkie any day. And there's easy ways around the pee test too! So they are truly pointless.

[glasseye]

I'll bet they won't release your results to you. "Privacy concerns"

[airkooledchris]

Polygraph tests next?

neal

those are common for a number of jobs as well. I really wanted to get into emergency dispatcher work, but later found out that most, if not all, require a polygraph test and that whole 'have you ever smoked' question is going to be a killer. again, it's better to be a raging alcoholic than to have ever experimented.

[BellePlaine]

A job interview is as much as about your interviewing them as they are you. Sounds to me like it was they that failed.

Good luck Sluggo.

[Amskeptic]

Polygraph tests next?

neal

Heck yeah, I peed on one.
"See? I can help your company be more efficient by multi-tasking your intake requirements."
Didn't get the job.
Colin

[Sylvester]

Polygraph tests next?

neal

I hear they are not fun. I have given a lot of urine in "Operation Golden Flow" in the past year though. Passed with flying colors!

[Sluggo]

Not all that worried about it any more. Found out I'll get decent unemployment so I'm going to take my time and be picky about the job I accept. Going to look for an off-site management position so we don't have to live where we work and will be able to look for a house in the future.

[Manfred]

Don't feel bad. I failed one years ago. It asked me if I would rat out someone for steeling. I answered, no.

I was 16 and my answer was true. Either they want only saints working there or they want liars working there. I'm guessing the latter.

You are better off. Something better is waiting for you.

[Hippie]

Consider the abnormal interview to be your snapshot of how the entire company probably runs.

Bingo!

A lot of this new stuff is for insurance/liability....depending on the job. Airline pilot with PCP in the blood? OK...not hired.
But generally, I feel like if the government needs a search warrant, then the company can't get away with it either.
Ban the practice.

[sped372]

Consider the abnormal interview to be your snapshot of how the entire company probably runs.

Bingo!

My last three jobs have panned out exactly as I thought they would based on how I felt about the place by the end of the interview. I've taken each job and have been grateful but the clues that you receive when you're there are telling.

It's very rare for you to show up on an atypical day. If the roof is leaking on the day of your interview, it will probably continue to do so for the duration of your tenure, should you take the job. If the people seem strange or treat you a certain way, they aren't going to be any different when you show up on your first day of work. If there are arduous, over-complicated procedures or you have difficulty getting ahold of someone to set up an appointment... guess what? Yep, expect to always have those same troubles if you take the job.

Companies are sort of like people, they don't really change all that much. What you see is basically what you get. If something doesn't agree with you during an interview listen to your instincts.

[Sluggo]

Moving out today. Got a place in SW PDX / Tigard.

[Amskeptic]

Moving out today. Got a place in SW PDX / Tigard.

Be sure to invite me over when I get out there in the dry warm season.
Colin