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Re: Black Tea Party

Post by ruckman101 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:36 pm

I don't see how your assumptions could have been extrapolated from that post, sorry. And it seems plenty straightforward to me. Although voting against your own interests seems like a chump choice to make.


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Post by turk » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:13 pm

So, you're saying there are some legitimate tea partiers of a non-white genetic make-up, but you are skeptical mostly, or think those people are chumps. Seems to me you jumped on the topic and strongly ridiculed the idea, dismissed it as propaganda, and continued the "racist" smear. What does race have to do with anything the Tea Party wants? Is there some legislation they support that suggests racism? I'm really curious to know. Other than the smear campaign against it, I'm not aware of any through line of a racist nature.
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Post by vdubyah73 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:12 pm

It's because there were some racists at a tea party rally a while back that hurled some racial epithets at some black congressman or something. the media grabbed a hold of it and labeled the whole tea party movement as racist, that made the ratings go up so they sensationalized it even more. then they made gob shites of money selling spots of tv and radio and print advertising to the very corporations they want us to despise.


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Re: Black Tea Party

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:32 pm

NYT/Gallup Poll May 2010:
A similar survey by Gallup gives an even more compelling picture of the Tea Partiers. The Gallup Survey suggests that while the Tea Partiers skew conservative, Republican, and affluent, ethnically and otherwise they tend to match the makeup of the United States as a whole.

The biggest variance is that while the percentage of African Americans in the United States is 11 percent, the percentage of African American Tea Partiers is 6 percent. Considering the tendency of African Americans to support Democrats, especially the African American Democratic president, that is a remarkable statistic. It also flies in the face of the stereotype being promulgated in the media of the Tea Partier as an exclusively older white phenomenon

Indeed, Tea Partiers, broken out by age, track the proportions of the general American population as well as well as education and employment status.
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Post by turk » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:36 pm

Thanks for backing me on that. I'm not crazy.
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Post by Sluggo » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:17 pm

Why are there no black people in the IAC? :scratch:

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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Post by dtrumbo » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:38 pm

Sluggo wrote:Why are there no black people in the IAC? :scratch:
Of course it's impossible to tell without meeting in person (and even then...), but I think I recall our esteemed IAC member RZAR mentioned he was African American. Perhaps he'll chime in and confirm or remind us that it's non of our damned business.

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Re: Black Tea Party

Post by Sluggo » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:50 pm

dtrumbo wrote:
Sluggo wrote:Why are there no black people in the IAC? :scratch:
Of course it's impossible to tell without meeting in person (and even then...), but I think I recall our esteemed IAC member RZAR mentioned he was African American. Perhaps he'll chime in and confirm or remind us that it's non of our damned business.

Political views aside, I wonder how many people of color own and enjoy air-cooled VW's?
I had a friend in high school who was black and he owned a sweet Beetle.

I hate the term African-American and all the other ?-American titles. If you were born here you're American and your skin is what has been deemed as black. I'm not Irish-Jewish-Italian-Native-American. I'm not White-American. I'm American and my skin is what has been deemed as white. Color is simply a description. If you (or your family before you) came to America from somewhere else (under any circumstances) and become a contributing member of American society, you are an American as far as I'm concerned.

And American-Indians are not Indians. They're Natives.

Sorry to be off topic.

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Many Tea Party people are racist. Many are not. Just like our population. Probably more in the Tea Party than not simply because they are Republican (Never met a racist who wasn't) and mostly southern.
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Post by RussellK » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:01 pm

Sluggo wrote: because they are Republican (Never met a racist who wasn't)
Haven't been to any Democrat Committee meetings eh?

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Post by Sluggo » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:27 pm

RussellK wrote:
Sluggo wrote: because they are Republican (Never met a racist who wasn't)
Haven't been to any Democrat Committee meetings eh?

Nope. Have you?
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Post by RussellK » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:44 pm

Sluggo wrote:
RussellK wrote:
Sluggo wrote: because they are Republican (Never met a racist who wasn't)
Haven't been to any Democrat Committee meetings eh?

Nope. Have you?
Yes. It was awkward hearing our committeeman trying to explain candidate Obama's skin color and how we might "present" it to voters. Actually awkward isn't the right word. Disgusting would be more accurate. Racists come from all walks of life.

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Post by Sluggo » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:07 pm

RussellK wrote:It was awkward hearing our committeeman trying to explain candidate Obama's skin color and how we might "present" it to voters. Actually awkward isn't the right word. Disgusting would be more accurate. Racists come from all walks of life.
Racists do come from all walks of life. So do Republicans. Your description of the events (I think I remember hearing about this before) sounds more like someone who is racially ignorant rather than racially biased. It wasn't the democratic party that fought against civil rights, segregation & anything else that might help the downtrodden. From my personal experience with family and general population in West Virginia & Florida, the racists love Bush 1 & 2, Reagan & Nixon. I'm not saying that Republican=Racist. But, 90% of the time, Racist=Republican.
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Post by vdubyah73 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:21 pm

The Racist History of the Democratic Party



Wayne Perryman, an inner city minister in Seattle and the author of Unfounded Loyalty, in an editorial circulating on the Internet (Feb. 2004):

Most people are either a Democrat by design, or a Democrat by deception. That is either they were well aware the racist history of the Democrat Party and still chose to be Democrat, or they were deceived into thinking that the Democratic Party is a party that sincerely cared about Black people.

History reveals that every piece of racist legislation that was ever passed and every racist terrorist attack that was ever inflicted on African Americans, was initiated by the members of the Democratic Party. From the formation of the Democratic Party in 1792 to the Civil Rights movement of 1960's, Congressional records show the Democrat Party passed no specific laws to help Blacks, every law that they introduced into Congress was designed to hurt blacks in 1894 Repeal Act. The chronicles of history shows that during the past 160 years the Democratic Party legislated Jim Crows laws, Black Codes and a multitude of other laws at the state and federal level to deny African Americans their rights as citizens.

History reveals that the Republican Party was formed in 1854 to abolish slavery and challenge other racist legislative acts initiated by the Democratic Party.

Some called it the Civil War, others called it the War Between the States, but to the African Americans at that time, it was the War Between the Democrats and the Republicans over slavery. The Democrats gave their lives to expand it, Republican gave their lives to ban it.

During the Senate debates on the Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871, it was revealed that members of the Democratic Party formed many terrorist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to murder and intimidate African Americans voters. The Ku Klux Klan Act was a bill introduced by a Republican Congress to stop Klan Activities. Senate debates revealed that the Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.

History reveals that Democrats lynched, burned, mutilated and murdered thousands of blacks and completely destroyed entire towns and communities occupied by middle class Blacks, including Rosewood, Florida, the Greenwood District in Tulsa Oklahoma, and Wilmington, North Carolina to name a few.

After the Civil War, Democrats murdered several hundred black elected officials (in the South) to regain control of the southern government. All of the elected officials up to 1935 were Republicans. As of 2004, the Democrat Party (the oldest political party in America) has never elected a black man to the United States Senate, the Republicans have elected three.

History reveals that it was Thaddeus Stevens, a Radical Republican that introduced legislation to give African Americans the so-called 40 acres and a mule and Democrats overwhelmingly voted against the bill. Today many white Democrats are opposed to paying African Americans trillions of dollars in Reparation Pay, money that should be paid by the Democratic Party.

History reveals that it was Abolitionists and Radical Republicans such as Henry L. Morehouse and General Oliver Howard that started many of the traditional Black colleges, while Democrats fought to keep them closed. Many of our traditional Black colleges are named after white Republicans.

Congressional records show it was Democrats that strongly opposed the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. These three Amendments were introduced by Republicans to abolish slavery, give citizenship to all African Americans born in the United States and, give Blacks the right to vote.

Congressional records show that Democrats were opposed to passing the following laws that were introduced by Republicans to achieve civil rights for African Americans:

Civil Rights Act 1866
Reconstruction Act of 1867
Freedman Bureau Extension Act of 1866
Enforcement Act of 1870
Force Act of 1871
Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
Civil Rights Act of 1875
Civil Rights Act of 1957
Civil Rights Act of 1960

And during the 60's many Democrats fought hard to defeat the

1964 Civil Rights Act
1965 Voting Rights Acts
1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act

Court records shows that it was the Democrats that supported the Dred Scott Decision. The decision classified Blacks and property rather than people. It was also the racist Jim Crow practices initiated by Democrats that brought about the two landmark cases of Plessy v Ferguson and Brown v. The Board of Education.

At the turn of the century (1900), Southern Democrats continued to oppress African Americans by placing thousands in hard-core prison labor camps. According to most historians, the prison camps were far worst than slavery. The prisoners were required to work from 10-14 hours a day, six to seven days a week in temperatures that exceeded 100 degrees and in temperatures that fell well below zero. The camps provided free labor for building railroads, mining coal-mines and for draining snake and alligator invested swamps and rivers. Blacks were transported from one project to another in rolling cages similar to the ones used to transfer circus animals. One fourth of the prison populations were children ages 6 to 18. Young Cy Williams age 12, was sentenced to 20 years for stealing a horse that he was too small to ride. Eight-year old Will Evans was sentenced to 2 years of hard labor for taking some change from a store counter and six-year old Mary Gay was sentenced to 30 days for taking a hat. While authorities sent whites to jail for the same offenses, they sent blacks to the prison camps with much longer sentences. Thousands died from malaria, frost bites, heat strokes, shackle poisoning, others were buried alive in collapsing mines, or blown to pieces in tunnel explosions, and still others drowned in swamps or were beaten and shot to death. Every southern black citizen was a potential prisoner for any alleged small offense, including violating evening curfews. Through the prison camp system, southern owners of railroads, mines and farms had an unlimited source of free labor. The black prisoners played a major role the South's economic development. Bryan Stevenson of the Equal Justice Initiative, said, in his opinion, "the prison camps were a new form of slavery, but far more inhumane."

History reveals that it was three white persons that opposed the Democrat's racist practices who started the NAACP.

Dr. Martin Luther King, several Civil Rights leaders and many historians reported that during the first two years of his administration, President John F. Kennedy ignored Dr. King's request for Civil Rights. The chronicles of history reveal that it was only after television coverage of riots and several demonstrations did President Kennedy feel a need to introduce the 1963 Civil Rights Act. At that time, experts believe the nation was headed toward a major race war.

History reveals that it was Democratic Attorney General, Robert Kennedy that approved the secret wire taps on Dr, Martin Luther King Jr., and it was Democratic President Lyndon Johnson that referred to Dr. King as " that nigger preacher." Senator Byrd referred to Dr. King as a "trouble maker" who causes trouble and then runs like a "coward," when trouble breaks out.

Over the strong objections of racist Republican Senator Jessie Helms, Republican President Ronald Reagan, signed into law, a bill to make Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday a national holiday. Several Republican Senators convinced President Reagan this was the right thing to do.

Congressional records show after signing the 1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act and issuing Executive Order 11478, Richard Nixon, a Republican, that started what we know as Affirmative Action.

On December 15, 1994, federal Judge David V. Kenyon issued a court order to the Clinton Administration in the Case of Fairchild v Robert Reich Secretary of Labor (#CV92-5765 Kn). The order demanded that Secretary Reich and the Clinton Administration force 100 west coast shipping to develop an Affirmative Action plan to stop discrimination against, African Americans, Hispanics, Female and Disabled Workers. Female employees were being sexually harrassed, Hispanic were being denied promotions and training, Disable Workers were being laid off, and African Americans were being force to work in an environment where they had job classification called " Nigger Jobs." Clinton left office six years later and never complied with the court order. The companies still do not have an Affirmative Action Plan.

President Clinton sent 20, 000 troops to protect the white citizens of Europe's Bosnia, but sent no troops to Africa's Rwanda to protect the black citizens there. Consequently over 800,000 Africans were massacre

During the 2003 Democratic Primary debates, the Rev. Al Sharpton, said the Democrat take the black vote for granted and treat African American like a mistress. They [Democrats} will take us to the dance, but they don't want to take us home to meet mama."


On December 3, 2002, President Clinton spoke to Democratic Leadership Council in New York regarding the future of the Democratic Party and how they could retake the White House. At no time did he address Civil Rights issues for blacks or doing things to improve the conditions of African Americans. His only reference to Civil Rights was Civil Rights for Gays. His only reference to improving communities was his recommendation to revisit the Marshall Plan to re-build communities in other countries. His entire speech was aired on C-Span.

After exclusively giving the Democrats their votes for the past 25 years, the average African American cannot point to one piece of civil rights legislation sponsored solely by the Democratic Party that was specifically designed to eradicate the unique problems that African Americans face today. Congressional records show that all previous legislation (since 1964) had strong bi-partisan support, even though some Democrats debated and voted against these laws.

After reviewing all of the evidence, many believe America would have never experienced racism to the degree that it has, had not the Democrats promoted it through:

Racist Legislation
Terrorist Organizations
Negative Media Communications
Bias Education
Relentless Intimidation
And Flawed Adjudication.

The racism established and promoted by members of the Democratic Party affected and infected the entire nation from 1856 with the Dred Scott decision, to the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education case. But they never offered or issued an apology.

Today both parties must remember their past. The Democrats must remember the terrible things they did to Blacks and apologize and the Republicans must remember the terrific things they did for Blacks and re-commit to complete the work that their predecessors started and died for.
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Post by vdubyah73 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:26 pm

the authors web site.

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Post by RussellK » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:52 pm

Sluggo I don't know the difference between racially ignorant and racially biased. To me if a person feels compelled to explain a person ain't so bad even if he does have a different skin color that makes them a racist. It may not be overt but its there.

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