"Obamacare" repeal- can ya justify it?

[Amskeptic]

Exactly. I do not understand why we have to belabor this point. It seems very clear.
Colin

Oh hell, we've belabored points even more clear than this one. Why stop now?

Lots of things might seem very clear to those who have strong opinions. It might seem clear that everyone alive should have life insurance, and property insurance for all their possessions, in case of accidents and natural disasters, because the burden of expenses for the uninsured is shared by the whole community eventually. Grey areas. Costs and benefits in both arguments.

But the missing point is the key point here.
What is our moral responsibility to each other?

Property:loss whatever, if you lose everything because you did not have insurance, I don't feel the acute moral outrage like I do knowing that people who have paid into their health insurance, get screwed at payout time, lose their home, end up red-lined and homeless, where their car insurance premiums suddenly hike to hell regardless of driving history, I truly believe with a strong opinion and stuff, that these parasitic scumbags need to be regulated, and we all need to wake up and participate in the miracle of this modern economy.
Colin

[BellePlaine]

Property:loss whatever, if you lose everything because you did not have insurance, I don't feel the acute moral outrage like I do knowing that people who have paid into their health insurance, get screwed at payout time, lose their home, end up red-lined and homeless, where their car insurance premiums suddenly hike to hell regardless of driving history, I truly believe with a strong opinion and stuff, that these parasitic scumbags need to be regulated, and we all need to wake up and participate in the miracle of this modern economy.
Colin

Help me out here because I'm trying to learn. I agree with you, Colin. IF, the insurance companies are making up the rules as they go along, then I totally agree. A contract is a contract. If one side breaks the contract, then that is the time for government to get involved as a neutral arbitrator through the court system, not through (in my opinion) by the legislative branch. What is the tougher regulator, a judge or a new law? I think that the new law could be skirted a lot easier then the court's decision.

But the missing point is the key point here.
What is our moral responsibility to each other?

I think that to our moral responsibility to each other, through the federal government, is to treat each other neutrally, as individuals as opposed to lumping us into groups.

[Amskeptic]

I think that to our moral responsibility to each other, through the federal government, is to treat each other neutrally, as individuals as opposed to lumping us into groups.

This is the phrase that has broken this country down.
I am an American who happily and easily considers himself a part of a great invigorating experiment. We had a huge "group" purpose, and we all threw our shoulders to the wheel. Believe it or not, Belle Plaine, even the capitalists once paid their taxes with gratitude.

Something has changed, it is greed, and those who have turned the government into the enemy should be ashamed of themselves. Listen to all the screaming idiots who have traitorously tried to drag our President down with lying bullshit like "he's a socialist! He's trying to tear down the country!" These morons, these traitorous un-American selfish fools, could not tell you that taxes for all of us have gone down in the past two years, they could not tell you that the corporate tax contribution has skidded down yet more to a level not seen since 1949, and they still yell and holler that helping America pay its bills is such a terrible thing. They also bray like jackasses that the government has grown under Obama, when in fact it grew under Bush's bloated Homeland Security "apparatus". The actual Size Of Government has been a modest 25% for a generation now. People need to shut up, learn, grow up, and participate. Pay your taxes and be grateful. We have a Nation to sustain.
Colin

[Bleyseng]

This is one of the biggest differences I have seen between Americans and Europeans in my travels. Atleast the Dutch pay their taxes but are very proud of how the money sustains and improves their country. In the States people blame everyone else for stealing money, being lazy, un-christian, Socialist, Welfare Mama's and its the Governments fault we are in this "terrible state". Where is the pride ?
The corporate greed that has gripped the country is distasteful....With the 1% skimming off huge amounts of money and some now forcing their politics on the rest of us.

Where I am now people have way less, are happier and proud of their country even though is in the hands of the unstable former dictator....go figure.

[Amskeptic]

Where I am now people have way less, are happier and proud of their country even though is in the hands of the unstable former dictator....go figure.

I figured. Gratitude gets blunted by excess.
ColinWayLess

[ruckman101]

Obama calls their bluff. I like it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_gov ... ZsZXhpYmk-


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