Ivory Coast Crisis

[twinfalls]

Here comes another mess.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/48721/

A lot of coverage in French media.
This coverage stinks.
It is urgent to NOT get involved in this.
There is no reason for the so called "international community" to chose a Ouatarra versus a Gbagbo.
Elections in Africa never are without cheating ( Mobutu is a record to beat at some 98% ).
Again the UN is used as a suspicious "peace" instrument.

Africa should be left, up to Africans.
The important long term issue is China pushing hard to get in Africa.

[ruckman101]

China is all over Africa, snatching it up.

Still wrapping my head around wtf ivory coast bit. Trying to sort it out. A nasty situation with all kinds of outside tugging. My heart sinks.


neal

[dingo]

Here comes another mess.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/48721/

A lot of coverage in French media.
This coverage stinks.
It is urgent to NOT get involved in this.
There is no reason for the so called "international community" to chose a Ouatarra versus a Gbagbo.
Elections in Africa never are without cheating ( Mobutu is a record to beat at some 98% ).
Again the UN is used as a suspicious "peace" instrument.

Africa should be left, up to Africans.
The important long term issue is China pushing hard to get in Africa.

did you read the Sarkozy Wikileak cable on Africa and colonials? i thought he stated it quite well

[Amskeptic]

Here comes another mess.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/48721/

A lot of coverage in French media.
This coverage stinks.
It is urgent to NOT get involved in this.
There is no reason for the so called "international community" to chose a Ouatarra versus a Gbagbo.
Elections in Africa never are without cheating ( Mobutu is a record to beat at some 98% ).
Again the UN is used as a suspicious "peace" instrument.

Africa should be left, up to Africans.
The important long term issue is China pushing hard to get in Africa.

did you read the Sarkozy Wikileak cable on Africa and colonials? i thought he stated it quite well

What did he say?
ArmchairLoungeLizard

[dingo]

12. (C) Sarkozy said that the colonist "took but I want to say with respect that he also gave. He constructed bridges, roads, hospitals, dispensaries, schools. He rendered virgin land fertile, he gave his effort, his work, his knowledge. I want to say here that not all the colonists were thieves, not all the colonists were exploiters.... Colonization is not responsible for all of Africa's current difficulties. It is not responsible for the bloody wars Africans carry out with each other. It is not responsible for the genocides. It is not responsible for the dictators. It is not responsible for fanaticism. It is not responsible for the corruption, for the lies. It is not responsible for the waste and pollution.... The problem of Africa, and permit me as a friend of Africa to say it, is there. The challenge for Africa is to enter more into history. It is to draw from within itself the energy, the strength, the desire, the willpower to listen to and to espouse its own history. The problem of Africa is to stop always repeating, to stop always trotting out, to free itself from, the myth of the eternal return, to understand that the Golden Age, which Africa never stops longing for, will never come back because it never existed."