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Re: Corrupt system

Post by 72Hardtop » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:56 am

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Bleyseng wrote:SS, 50% of Medicare are paid for by our payroll taxes. The Military is paid for out of Federal taxes so it can be cut and $630 billion is a huge hole.

So we are back to this BS that we need to cut ACA which is saving money? I am all for the Government option and getting rid of the Insurance Company's scam of making huge profits on our heath care insurance.

Payroll taxes and federal taxes. Federal taxes come out of payroll. A sizeable portion of Medicare is never paid for at all much like everything else today. The ACA is indeed anything but affordable. It does not save money at all. Talk to anyone in healthcare and they will tell you that. If there's anything I've learned from all the years working in government it's when government says we're here to help....run. The government couldn't run a whore house full of whores.
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Re: Corrupt system

Post by 72Hardtop » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:57 am

MonoCone wrote:
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I had enough of the Clintons during the last run and I was not impressed to say the least. I did not receive a single pay raise while serving during those Clinton years and the were a huge set back in terms of military, defense and Intelligence spending cuts. She has zero credibility.
Bill Clinton was in office 92-2000.
Were you active duty during those years? There was a military pay raise in every one of those years, ranging from 2.2% to 4.2%.
Were you Federal Civil Service? There was a pay raise every one of those years ranging from 2.4% to 4.2%.

Credibility?
1986-1996 (Active duty- 2 reserves)...and no there were no raises during Clintons terms still have my Leave & Earnings statements showing none, nadda, zip...
If you did not get between a 2-4% raise (cost of living) adjustment each of those years you may have a claim against your Branch. (Assuming the Statute of Limitations is still open.)

Here are the charts....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... XVNXJKsujw
Those charts are highly questionable when compared to my L&E statements.
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Re: Corrupt system

Post by 72Hardtop » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:01 am

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Bleyseng wrote:I would love to see spending cuts in the bloated military! Nearly one billion a year in spending is our Black Hole in Government spending not SS, Obamacare, welfare, Food Stamps etc...
Trump will send us back to the GOP/Bush years of crazy fiscal policy on deep tax cuts, increased military spending and deficits.
Deficits? You mean the Trillions of debt Obama has added since he's been in office ~ 10+ Trillion and counting. Not including the cost of running an already over bloated unaffordable care act that is slipping away.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid alone count for more spending than military spending.

Obama has added $6.49 trillion to the deficit (a 56% increase while Bush added $5.8 trillion (a 101% increase from Clinton).
So it cost money to "Fix" the US economy ruined by Bush and Wall Street. Are you better off now or in 2008 the financial crisis?
Debt – The U.S. government’s debt owed to the public has more than doubled. It is now more than $13.6 trillion, an increase of 116 percent since Obama first took office.

And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

Massive federal deficits continue: The final figure for FY 2015 was $438.9 billion. That was about $44.5 billion less than the shortfall in fiscal year 2014, but CBO projects that without further spending cuts or revenue increases, deficits will soon be growing larger again, and will top $1 trillion in FY 2025.

Total debt, counting money the government owes to itself, currently stands at nearly $18.9 trillion, up nearly 78 percent under Obama.

Also, Obama increased military spending to around $800 billion a year on average. In fact, his security budget request of $895 billion in FY 2011 set a new record. Even though troops were withdrawn from Iraq in 2012, and Osama bin Laden was eliminated in 2011, Obama requested $851 billion in his FY 2013 budget. Although Obama abandoned the phrase "War on Terror," he spent $857 billion on it in Contingency funds. That's more than the $850 billion Bush spent.
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Re: Corrupt system

Post by Bleyseng » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:06 pm

Keep in mind, in the Obama era, the deficit has shrunk by $1 trillion. That’s “trillion,” with a “t.” As a percentage of the economy, the deficit is now down to just 2.5%, which is below the average of the past half-century, and down from 9.8% when the president took office."
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... -obama-era
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Bleyseng wrote:Keep in mind, in the Obama era, the deficit has shrunk by $1 trillion. That’s “trillion,” with a “t.” As a percentage of the economy, the deficit is now down to just 2.5%, which is below the average of the past half-century, and down from 9.8% when the president took office."
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... -obama-era
Deficit talk is old news...
The deficit is completely and utterly moot when you $20 Trillion in the hole and growing. It's a term that is overwhelmingly abused.
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Re: Corrupt system

Post by ruckman101 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 11:45 pm

Bernie didn't make it, but the ripples of influence his candidacy stirred up are still rippling. Trump is a wart on all of humanity.


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Re: Corrupt system

Post by 72Hardtop » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:05 am

ruckman101 wrote:Bernie didn't make it, but the ripples of influence his candidacy stirred up are still rippling. Trump is a wart on all of humanity.


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Many of which stated that Trump would win after being locked out of the DNC in Texas. Going on the record (during the race) and stating she's an awful leader then publicly supporting her later doesn't do yourself any favors nor lift your credibility. It only assures what many already know...you're part of the problem.
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Post by asiab3 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:07 am

Hmmm, I watched all the debates during the primaries, but I don't remember him ever saying "awful leader." Care to enlighten us on where you heard that?


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asiab3 wrote:Hmmm, I watched all the debates during the primaries, but I don't remember him ever saying "awful leader." Care to enlighten us on where you heard that?


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He's had very parting words about Hillary during his run before bailing out. One only has to use Google to know that.
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Post by Randy in Maine » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:26 pm

"Just take the oil."

Priceless. The man really has no clue how the world works.
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Post by asiab3 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:59 pm

72Hardtop wrote:
asiab3 wrote:Hmmm, I watched all the debates during the primaries, but I don't remember him ever saying "awful leader." Care to enlighten us on where you heard that?


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...One only has to use Google to know that.
Oh no no no it doesn't work like that. See, when you blatantly accuse someone of saying something, you must prove it. This is high school level stuff, not the kind of thing adults need reminding of in a persuasive context. By this logic, I say the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists because you can find it on google. See your problem?

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Post by Bleyseng » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:01 pm

I think the flying Spagetti Monster would run the country better than Trump. All this spending and Obama's fault crap, who sets the Budget? The GOP Congress that's who. Congress spends the money
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Post by 72Hardtop » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:10 am

asiab3 wrote:
72Hardtop wrote:
asiab3 wrote:Hmmm, I watched all the debates during the primaries, but I don't remember him ever saying "awful leader." Care to enlighten us on where you heard that?


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...One only has to use Google to know that.
Oh no no no it doesn't work like that. See, when you blatantly accuse someone of saying something, you must prove it. This is high school level stuff, not the kind of thing adults need reminding of in a persuasive context. By this logic, I say the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists because you can find it on google. See your problem?

Robbie
Hope you're not implying that Barnie was talking highly of Hillary during his run. He wasn't, he pointed and called her out many times. A caveman knows this. Good luck finding your monster because I can find a plethora of Barnie trash talk on Hillary. Remember when Hillary's lips are moving...she's lying.
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Post by Bleyseng » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:42 am

Snopes and Policifact both have proven HC doesn't lie much but rather its a GOP slander job that has been going on for years. Pull your head out of the sand and see what a BS 'er Trump is.
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Post by 72Hardtop » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:58 pm

Bleyseng wrote:Snopes and Policifact both have proven HC doesn't lie much but rather its a GOP slander job that has been going on for years. Pull your head out of the sand and see what a BS 'er Trump is.
Guess her sending & receiving emails (classified) isn't enough. She lies every time she opens her mouth. Snopes & Poliicifact...Buwahahahahah!....Buwahahahahah!...Good one....Buwhahahahahaha!
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Post by Bleyseng » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:30 pm

yes, on the private server that Colin Powel setup for her..Buwahahahahahahh

since the FBI found it no big deal it's a big deal to you?
I am more worried about Trump's getting money from Putin!
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