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Re: This Just In . . .

Post by Amskeptic » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:43 am

Jivermo wrote:I am sick of all the bullshit from both sides. It is a continuous torrent of lies and deception. Let's not even get into the incompetence shown in the healthcare/government systems in dealing with the Ebola crisis. We have some major problems facing us as a nation, and we need smart, courageous decision makers to lead. Where are they?
Staying away so as not to sully themselves. An understandable decision, but we need the courage of those who understand to go forth into the swamps of self-interest and tell it like it is. We have a few, Bernie Saunders comes to mind. Yes, he will be and has been excoriated, but he has held up to honest challenge.

We cannot let the "sick of the bullshit" drive us away from our important civic duties however. I would press this point upon parents especially, not to give their kids the notion that "we are not going to vote because they're all the same". Too many people have died for our right to vote not to vote.
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Post by Bleyseng » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:23 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/opini ... onomy.html

How the "Right" killed the Global Economy.
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Re: This Just In . . .

Post by dingo » Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:39 am

We cannot let the "sick of the bullshit" drive us away from our important civic duties however. I would press this point upon parents especially, not to give their kids the notion that "we are not going to vote because they're all the same". Too many people have died for our right to vote not to vote.
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its like the old Simpsons episode where Homer goes to the Duff Brewery and has to choose at the taps between Duff, Duff Lite and Duff Dry....unbeknowned to him, all three are piped in from one central resevoir....hahaha
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Post by Amskeptic » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:33 am

dingo wrote: all are piped in from one central resevoir....hahaha
Yes, but . . . we would not be arguing so vociferously between the Democratic plaftform and the Republican platform if there weren't some important differences.

Within the overall international understanding of societies and economics, the differences are important.
We have evidence that certain principles have certain effects i.e. austerity slows down economic growth, so go find your candidate who hews most-closely to your own principles. Doesn't have to be a perfect match.
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Post by dingo » Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:48 am

I think that idea that the individual can excercise their power thru voting in a democratic process, is the last great myth that once overturned, would cripple the kleptocracy by removing their main tool of manipulation and obfuscation
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Post by Amskeptic » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:37 am

dingo wrote:I think that idea that the individual can excercise their power thru voting in a democratic process, is the last great myth that once overturned, would cripple the kleptocracy by removing their main tool of manipulation and obfuscation
Oh please.
They klept *in spite of the vote*. What would you have in its stead?

You gonna take to the streets with me? You gonna be a high-minded civil-disobedient citizen with me?
You gonna stay humble and answer-free as to the motivations of others, and stick with the dry facts as they present to you?
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Re: This Just In . . .

Post by Bleyseng » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:43 pm

My vote is the only weapon I have and use besides my brain.... Let's all vote however you want to pick em it's your vote.
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Post by Amskeptic » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:12 pm

Bleyseng wrote:My vote is the only weapon I have and use besides my brain.... Let's all vote however you want to pick em it's your vote.
Well, while we are on the topic of using brains and picking 'em . . . :flower:
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